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To: chukcha
There were many events since May 2004, which prove that the wall will not be a sufficient deterrent.

The main question 'what Israel is going to do when Qassams will start hitting Ashkelon' was never answered. The initial answer - "we gonna hit them hard" - was dispelled when people started dying from this attacks and Israel did nothing.

A military fortification such as the Israeli Wall is not, was never intended to be and can never be a "deterrent".

Such a fortification is merely a static piece of military infrastructure whose purpose is to vastly increase the defensive capabilities against enemy land attacks and infiltration.

That is all it does. Period.

It has no offensive capabilities.

While land-bound threats do not constitute 100% of the Palestinian's offensive capabilities, they do constitute the vast majority of the Palestinian's meaningful offensive capabilities. The severe curtailment of Palestinian land-bound threats reduces the Palestinian's range of offensive options from the capability of killing thousands by means of dozens of suicide bombings to the capability of conducting nuisance rocket attacks.

The military definition of deterrence is the military capability to discourage any would-be aggressor from starting an attack through the fear of retaliation. That is not the role of static field fortifications. That is the role the units of your armed forces who posses the ability to project power into enemy territory, namely, the Air Force, artillery and Army assault units.

I discussed this issue of deterrence in my Post 21 of yonif's May 2004 thread

For Israel, the use of such deterrence is solely an issue of political will and political and military judgment.

The Israeli Wall considerably reduces the downside consequences of exercising such deterrence. Without thousands of Israelis on the wrong side of the Israeli Wall, any deterrent retaliation on Palestinian infrastructure can be carried out with much greater impunity than in the past.

62 posted on 02/26/2005 4:32:09 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
I have read May 2004 thread and I disagree with you.

Your argument, and the argument of Israeli government, is - let's get out and hide behind the wall, when they strike us, we will strike back hard.

The problem here is that you and they know that Israel will be attacked and innocent lives will be lost.

First, Arabs given free reign in Gaza will be able to acquire more sophisticated weapons, and will be able to hit Israel that much harder. Second, Israel will never be free of responsibility of what is happening in Gaza, any response will be limited.

So, in effect, Israeli government is paying for peace - or even promise of peace - with Jewish blood.

Thus, it is immoral since their primary obligation is to protect lives of Israeli citizens.

In their defense I can only say that every people deserve their government.
63 posted on 02/26/2005 4:55:04 PM PST by chukcha
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