Crusader plants new seeds (Daniel Pipes Is My Hero -- Join the Fight Against Islamism)

American Muslim Magazine ^ | 26 Feb 2005 | Jim Lobe

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Ping...

[CzarNicky]

...one asserting that Muslim immigrants were "brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene".

ouch that ones got to sting.

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"...ouch that ones got to sting."

The alleged statement was made over ten years ago. I'm trying to corroborate it now.

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"...one asserting that Muslim immigrants were "brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene".

The alleged statement above, attributed to Daniel Pipes, is a lie. A search of the web attributes that statement to an article Pipes wrote in 1990 that was published in the National Review. The article was about the irrational growth of Muslimphobia and winning strategies to combat Islamism or what I call Islamic fascism.

This is another case of the liberal media and politicians accepting the trash they are being fed by organizations such as CAIR and MAS. Below is a link to the original article. No where can the alleged statement be found and in fact, Daniel Pipes is exceedingly supportive and understanding of moderate Muslims and Islam. "The Muslims are coming! The Muslims are coming! - growth of Muslimphobia.

[CzarNicky]

Still it has to be embarrassing for the muzzies that someone says they do not elevate to European hygiene standards.

[Sam Cree]

read later

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"Still it has to be embarrassing for the muzzies that someone says they do not elevate to European hygiene standards."

If it hurts the pain is being caused by a liberal media that is lying to to the world and placing lies in the mouths of people who are trying to find and tell the truth. Daniel Pipes is trying to save people from the leftist insanity which is built totally upon lies and the ignorance of people who continue to believe in our very sick MSM. Our media today will be our undoing if we do not insist on the truth. They have become the vanguard of Islamist fascism.

[CzarNicky]

The thing is that whoever said this about the muzzies was right.

[sarah_f]

"Despite the apparent decision by US President George W Bush against renominating him to the board of the US Institute of Peace (USIP)..."

Anyone know what's behind this assertion?

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"Anyone know what's behind this assertion?"

Ted Kennedy; fed lies by Zogby, CAIR and others, led the charge as I understand it. Another good American has been prevented from serving his country because of the fascist left and MSM lies.

[Bombardier]

Pipes is also working with Stephen Schwartz on a new "Center for Islamic Pluralism" (CIP) whose aims are to "promote moderate Islam in the US and globally" and "to oppose the influence of militant Islam, and, in particular, the Saudi-funded Wahhabi sect of Islam, among American Muslims, in the America media, in American education ... and with US governmental bodies ..."

There is NO SUCH THING as "moderate" Islam.

[Dustbunny]

We are totally against the growth of Islam in the United States. Muslims will do anything and tell any lie in order to destroy Christians and other non-Muslims.

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"We are totally against the growth of Islam in the United States. Muslims will do anything and tell any lie in order to destroy Christians and other non-Muslims."

We can always dream, hope and pray but the fact is there are already over one billion Muslims in the world. And we already know there are plenty of fools in this country who just can't avoid the slip into madness so it will continue to grow here. Our best hope is to be informed, aware and ready to challenge their lies and expose the fascists for what they are. Most people just want to live peaceful lives. We need to appeal to that desire while fighting radicalism with truth, resolve and determination. We will win. History has already demonstrated that. The only question is how many causalities there will be in the war between freedom and order and fascism and Islamist anarchy.

[Restorer]

I don't think I have ever seen an article with so many "scare quotes." Maybe he should have just put them around the entire article.

[Restorer]

fascism and Islamist anarchy.

They are NOT anarchists. Quite the opposite.

Fascist, although not precisely applicable, is however a useful term.

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My use of the term 'anarchists' may be inappropriate but what I am referring is the constant creation/destruction of regimes, usually by violent means. It seems the only way to maintain any stability in an Islamic state is via brutal repression because the only claim to legitimacy by the sitting power is their Islamism. That means it is constantly under attack and can only be maintained via repression.

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ping...you may find some interest in this string...

[HAL9000]

Islamism or what I call Islamic fascism

My understanding is that 'islamism' and 'islamicism' are distinct terms, and the latter refers to Islamic fascism.

[Cornpone]

My face is red and I have to retract my statement that Daniel Pipes had not made the statement attributed to him. The article I found was a later reprint of the original. It had been updated. I found the original article and here is what Daniel Pipes, in fact, said:

"Fears of a Muslim influx have more substance than the worry about jihad. West European societies are unprepared for the massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene.*"

He later added the following footnote to the article. Both the original statement and footnote were edited out of the earlier document I found.

"* This sentence has over the years attracted considerable attention. My goal in this article (available at http://www.danielpipes.org/article/198) was to characterize the thinking of Western Europeans, not give my own views. In retrospect, I should either have put the words "brown-skinned peoples" and "strange foods" in quotation marks or made it clearer that I was explaining European attitudes rather than my own. By way of example of those attitudes, here are some quotations from top French politicians from that era."