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DDT, Fraud, and Tragedy
The American Prowler ^ | 2/25/2005 | Gerald and Natalie Sirkin

Posted on 02/24/2005 11:35:29 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 02/24/2005 11:35:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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West Nile Virus- Bring Back DDT?


2 posted on 02/24/2005 11:40:37 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: nickcarraway

I was fed this "Silent Spring" crap in high school Biology.

May my life be set straight O Lord, that I may be used to impart substance to the next generation.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 11:52:24 PM PST by ROTB
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Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler. Mostly brown people, whose deaths do not matter to her followers.


4 posted on 02/25/2005 12:00:32 AM PST by Comus
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BTTT


5 posted on 02/25/2005 12:01:58 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Does anyone know of any good "anti-Green" websites that contain long lists of links to other similar examples of egregious behavior by the Greenies?

I can think of so many example of this kind of crap! Like the "highway of death" in PA, or the Texas homeowner prosecuted under wetlands laws for paving his driveway, or the time the Sierra Club took on the Pope and won the battle but lost the war, or barge traffic on some major southeastern river being shut down for a nonexistent theoretical sub-sub-species of freshwater sturgeon, or the Mexican spotted owl fiasco in N. New Mexico that produced near riots where they were burning environmentalists in effigy, and on and on and on! Many of these I read in the WSJ editorial page in the early to mid 90's. I just wish someone would collect these all.

6 posted on 02/25/2005 12:04:19 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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This must be the 10th time I've seen a righteous rehash of the same study. It would be nice if somebody would post Edwards study itself so we could determine if it was crap or not and quit reprinting rehashes from suburban scribblers.


7 posted on 02/25/2005 12:43:55 AM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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Does anyone know of any good "anti-Green" websites that contain long lists of links to other similar examples of egregious behavior by the Greenies?

The closest I can get to that would be a couple of sub-forums at our Canadian sister site:

 Global Warming and Other Junk Sciences
Examining the use of 'environmentalism' as a means to power.
 
 
Fight Kyoto
For the discussion of the Kyoto Accord and, in particular, Ezra Levant's new book, Fight Kyoto.

8 posted on 02/25/2005 1:27:00 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Dr. Edwards was my undergrad advisor. Thanks.


9 posted on 02/25/2005 1:40:49 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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Enviro wackos place the worship of nature above the health and welfare of human beings. Their misanthropy has been extensively documented. Isn't it time to bring back DDT?

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

10 posted on 02/25/2005 2:30:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Isn't it time to bring back DDT?

Past time...

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

11 posted on 02/25/2005 2:37:57 AM PST by pageonetoo (you'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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Back in the 1950s, trucks would come through the neighborhood spraying DDT fog. All the kids would come out (I was one) and run through it. If it was that bad, you should have seen, by now, most residents of south Florida dead and gone from cancer a long time ago.


12 posted on 02/25/2005 3:07:52 AM PST by KeyWest
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Headline and lead sentence are grossly misleading. There was no "fraud in science". The SCIENCE involved was honest and accurate. The FRAUD was the lies told by the eco-nutcases and their allies in the media and the bureaucracy, and the failure to make policy actually based on science.


13 posted on 02/25/2005 3:52:59 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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Wow! This is great. Excellent expose. More ways we have been lied to.


14 posted on 02/25/2005 5:13:46 AM PST by marktwain
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Hmmm... It turns out DDE, a DDT derivative, does cause thinning of eggs in raptors, but not most other birds. However, It is a widely overstated problem. DDT is not a problem for raptors when used to control for malaria.

See link below:

Reason DDT Article

15 posted on 02/25/2005 5:31:22 AM PST by marktwain
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Hmmm... It turns out DDE, a DDT derivative, does cause thinning of eggs in raptors, but not most other birds. However, It is a widely overstated problem. DDT is not a problem for raptors when used to control for malaria.

Lets try that again!

Reason DDT Article

16 posted on 02/25/2005 5:33:46 AM PST by marktwain
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A poll question on the subject.
17 posted on 02/25/2005 5:36:06 AM PST by Tribune7
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Actually, I'm usually the one crying junk science all the time but, in this case, the science says DDT should be banned.

Each year, the FDA tests vegetables from store shelves across the country.

Despite being banned for over 25 years, DDT is still the most common pesticide found on vegetables.

It seems this little chemical is about as persistent as they come. When nature doesn't break it down, it shouldn't be used.


18 posted on 02/25/2005 5:40:27 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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Yes, and even worse is that it continues to this very day. It is a horrible sin that people are dying due to pseudo science and political correctness supported and promoted by people who have their own agenda. Personally I think they know what they are doing and are really trying to kill off a bunch of the world's population.
19 posted on 02/25/2005 5:42:44 AM PST by pepperdog
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Okay, so how many people died from eating veggies that had residual DDT? I'm betting not near as many as are dying from malaria and other diseases that DDT controlled.


20 posted on 02/25/2005 5:46:34 AM PST by pepperdog
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