Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

News4 Colorado ^ | 2/24/05 | Raj Chohan

[Fizzie]

Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

by CBS4 News reporter Raj Chohan

Feb 24, 2005 8:03 pm US/Mountain BOULDER, Colo. (CBS4) Boulder County resident Duke Prentup has been a fan of native American art for as long as he can remember. That love of art took him to the home of Ward Churchill in the early 1980's, where Prentup bought several pieces of Churchill's art, including a serigraph titled "Winter Attack."

"I have enjoyed them ever since immensely, they're obviously up inside my house," Prentup said.

Last month came a stunning revelation, though, as as Prentup flipped through a 1972 book called The Mystic Warriors of the Plains written and illustrated by the late artist Thomas E. Mails. He found a sketch that was strikingly similar to the Churchill piece.

(Excerpt) See the rest of the article, and photo comparisons of the 2 pieces of art here: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html

[CyberAnt]

Did he take a clue from Dan Rather's "accurate but fake"

Are these idiots related ..??

[Drango]

The image is a very stark and compelling one that evokes a sense of isolation

I'll say....

[ajolympian2004]

Michelle Malkin has posted the transcripts from the latest Churchill audio here: (Audio links at her web site)

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/001588.htm

====================== Transcript for Part I:

Question from audience: You mentioned a little bit ago, ‘Why did it take a bunch of Arabs to do what you all should have done a long time ago,’ that’s my question.

And as a white man standing here in your midst from a fairly liberal/conservative/middle of the road background—and I tell people I’m so far left I’m coming up on the rigt—and I’d like you to respond to, why shouldn’t we do something and how could we move so they don’t see us coming?

Churchill: I’m gonna repeat that, tell me if I got that right: Why shouldn’t we do something and how do you you move so they don’t see you coming.

As to the first part, not a reason in the world that I could see. I can’t find a single reason that you shouldn’t in a principled way—there may be some practical considerations, such as do you know how (laughter from audience)—you know, often these things are processes. It’s not just an impulse. And certainly it’s not just an event. And the simple answer, although it probably should be more complicated, but I’m not being flip and giving the simple answer, is: You carry the weapon. That’s how they don’t see it coming.

You’re the one…They talk about ‘color blind or blind to your color.’ You said it yourself.

You don’t send the Black Liberation Army into Wall Street to conduct an action.

You don’t send the American Indian Movement into downtown Seattle to conduct an action. Who do you send? You. Your beard shaved, your hair cut close, and wearing a banker’s suit.

There’s probably a whole lot more to it, you know that. But there’s where you start.

======================= Transcript for Part II:

If you are Arab, for example, you are automatically profiled as a potential terrorist. Period. And you can be asked to leave a plane because some Nordic-looking woman two rows down tells the stewardess she’s not comfortable with you being there—her presence makes her uncomfortable—why? Because it was Arabs who flew planes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. See. And that fact—she’s on an airplane and there’s an Arab and somehow psychologically it makes her uncomfortable so it’s very understandable that she not be asked to leave since she’s made it clear that she’s not going to be a very big risk to the flight, but rather the individuals sitting there doing nothing have to leave.

And why by the way did it take Arabs to do what people here should have done a long time ago?

======================== Transcript for Part III:

Question from audience:

I’m backing up a step to the Twin Towers falling down, um, there’s been implications about how…well, the first thing I thought about when it down was ‘Oh [expletive], that plays right into what they want to do to us.’ Maybe you can follow up on that. [applause]

Churchill: Your first thought was, well, yeah, you put it pretty well, I’ll accept you at your word, your first thought was ‘Oh [expletive], that plays right into what they want to do to us.’

Well, then, welcome to the club! Welcome to the club along with 565,000 Iraqi children who were systemically starved and denied medical attention to death in less than 10 years while Madeline Albright goes on television on 60 Minutes no less, receives the number, and says yes, ‘I’ve heard it, we’ve decided it’s worth the cost.’

Welcome to the club with the rest of the world. A little bit. I don’t care if it plays into the hands of what they had in mind for you unless you’re doing something tangible to make it stop, what’s already being done to those people on the receiving end.

Why should you be exempt and immune? So instead of ‘Oh [expletive],’ right on. Right on.

And I’m trying to elicit some response. I want someone to take this up, because I know you all aren’t agreeing with me on this.

======================= Transcript for Part IV:

Churchill on getting revenge for speeding tickets: …And I’m not really comfortable with, since I’m presenting no public hazard ever when I’m ticketed, can attest to that, we can take that further at some point tonight if you’d like to, if you’d like to challenge it, but I’m presenting no public hazard, I’m simply being asked to ante up to pay for my own repression.

Not being comfortable with that, I have a rule of thumb: I smile very politely to the cop, take the ticket, look to see how much the fine is going to be, and before I leave that state, I make sure I cause at least that much property damage in state material before I go, so it’s a wash, boys and girls (laughter and applause).

[Ruth A.]

When contacted at his home in North Carolina, Ryan Mails, the son of the late Thomas Mails said the family still retained the copyrights to the drawings of the Mystic Warriors book, and that his father fiercely defended the copyrights. "I cannot imagine he would ever grant permission to anyone to copy one of his pieces," he said.

Hehehe that what old Injun Ward can do with the speaking fee he just got from University of Hawaii. Wait, he probably spent it all already.

"Sure, it makes me angry, it makes me very disappointed," Prentup said. "I wanted some original artwork from what appeared to be a very good local artist. Now I don't know what I've got."

If he doesn't know what he's got, Injun Ward should offer to sell him another original art piece.

[Fizzie]

Another classic on this thread. Great work, BJungNan! LOL

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

STUNNING SERIGRAPH LITHOGRAPH WARD CHURCHILL WOW!!!

Shouldn't that be "STUNEING"?

[peyton randolph]

Is somebody going to pass this along to BOR or somebody in the media?

I just e-mailed a note to the seller on eBay asking if he was familiar with the news story. Included part of the article and the URL to read it. Will post any response. :-)

[BradyLS]

Excellent work, Howlin'!

I've left a note using the Ask Seller A Question feature to notify the seller of the bogus nature of Churchill's "art" with a link to the news item.

[Howlin]

Well, I certainly am stuned, how about you?

[CyberAnt]

Is she the twit that was on the Committee who wouldn't give up her seat ..?? Is she that Berry?

[ajolympian2004]

!!!gnizama tsuJ

[Howlin]

I hope nobody can log into my eBay page from #57........LOL.

[msnimje]

What is Ward Churchill's stance on Native American artists having their work stolen by WHITE MEN who represent it as there own for their own capitalist interests?

[BradyLS]

Dang! Yer fast!!!

[fish hawk]

One might say that Ward Churchill is PROSTHETIC.

[Howlin]

One and the same.

[msnimje]

I've left a note using the Ask Seller A Question feature to notify the seller of the bogus nature of Churchill's "art" with a link to the news item

You should tell the bidders rather than the seller.

[BJungNan]

That auction is going to see some traffic starting real soon.

[Walkingfeather]

lol

[CyberAnt]

But .. he obtained the job through fraud - using Affirmative Action by claiming to be an American Indian.

And .. it's highly unusual for a person without a doctorate degree to be given charge of a dept at a university.