Posted on 02/24/2005 3:11:35 PM PST by duckln
Another brilliant aricle. Go Pat Go.
How sloppy. Pat spends the first half of the article talking about Russia -
the Soviet Union of the aging autocrat Leonid Brezhnev was an "evil empire" that stretched from the Elbe to the Bering Sea with thousands of nuclear warheads targeted on the United States. The Red Army had recently occupied Afghanistan, and Moscow had established imperial outposts in the Middle East, Africa, the Caribbean and Central America.
Then he goes on to wonder why we would be concerned that Russia is sliding back into autocracy and totalitarianism?
< pat >"Who is this John McCain person and why would he care what goes on in another country?"< /pat >
Is it just me or is he missing the point of his own article? Or does he think that we shouldn't worry about our neighbors house being on fire until our own starts burning?
Yeah, right.
That's the point. It's not sliding back. He's protecting Russian interests the best he knows how.
Or does he think that we shouldn't worry about our neighbors house being on fire until our own starts burning?
Again, my friend, it's our house that is being burnt down, and we, you, don't even realize it.
If America was taking the same authoritarian turns as Russia, you'd not be so understanding. In fact -
Again, my friend, it's our house that is being burnt down, and we, you, don't even realize it.
- it appears that you aren't.
I think your missing the point of the article. Why are McCain and Lieberman so down on Russia, with and elected government and opposition parties - and utterly mute on China, a thug dictaorship?
The answer: McCain and Lieberman could care less about "democracy." They are both in bed with Soros and the gang of crooks - oligrachs- that Putin went after. The so-called "independent press" they mention were all controlled by the Khorodovsky and the like. Putin stopped the looting, McCain and Lieberman want the lotting to continue. Wrong as he is about Israel and the "Palestinians," Buchanan nailed this one exactly.
I'm kind of disappointed in Putin. I was hoping he would have used these public appearances with President Bush as an opportunity to criticize the two-faced approach of so many people in this administration when it comes to the "war on terror" and its application in Chechnya.
It happened on W's watch, I didn't hear him comment on it. Same in Russia. One man is not responsible for every thing that happens.
Exactly. I'm not happy with w signing the campaign finance reform.
Nor am I happy with the activist courts running the country. Lieberman and McCain have screwed up this country so bad they're the last that should be critical.
McCain and Lieberman are not the only ones down on Russia. I'm listening to Charles Krauthammer right now and he totally disagrees with Pat along with Bill Kristol and most of the conservative pundits......
You got it right.
At least Kristol is being consistent -- he's always been a meddling little pain in the @ss when it comes to U.S. foreign policy. For those of us who don't remember this, he was one of the few so-called "conservatives" who openly supported the Clinton administration's disgraceful war in Kosovo/Serbia.
More specifically, someone Iran taught how to make nuclear weapons, as to avoid it being tracked back to them.
This is to say nothing about their selling weapons to the Syrians and being a general thorn in the side of those trying to fight the War on Terror. They want to drag anchor on us, then expect us to help them? I think not.
So, *boo hoo hoo* about Chechnya, Russia.
You mean neo conservatives. They took down Yugoslavia and now they're after Russia. America is the last thing on their minds.
You sure jump to conclusions!! Clinton gave them to North Korea. Putin is IMHO not that stupid and has done no such thing in Iran.
What "war on terror" are you talking about? The U.S. is on the wrong side of THEIR war on terror!
Jump to conclusions? Putin is following in Clinton's footsteps with this 'civilian use' reactor nonsense. That you would use the North Korean example and fail to see the connection is remarkable.
I'm talking about the international Islamic extremists, loosely aligned with Al Qaida, and fueled off of a Saudi funded world-wide network of fanatical schools and mosques. Heard of it?
We may be on the wrong side of their little war in Chechnya, but that fight didn't exactly start in 2001. There's a long, long history of conflict between Russia and Chechnya, and it's only recently been one of Islamic extremism.
The Russians know that, of course. If they wanted to end the problem, they'd have let Chechnya go the way of Latvia and Estonia long ago. We don't have that option.
I'm talking about the international Islamic extremists, loosely aligned with Al Qaida, and fueled off of a Saudi funded world-wide network of fanatical schools and mosques. Heard of it?
If this is what the "war on terror" is supposed to be all about, then weren't we on the wrong side in the first Gulf War?
Are you comparing Latvia and Estonia with Chechnya? I don't recall Latvia and Estonia committed to terrorism in Russia. Let's discuss this reasonably.
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