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Aussies thrown in Havana hell hole
The Australian ^ | February 24, 2005 | Michelle Wiese Bockmann

Posted on 02/24/2005 10:09:17 AM PST by The Bronze Titan

AN Australian and his family were arrested in Cuba, thrown in an underground cell and interrogated, without food or water, for 12 hours after being accused of stealing visas.

Russell Grimmer, his wife Silvia and eight-year-old daughter Lia, were detained at the immigration counter at Havana's airport on Saturday as the family was about to leave on a flight to Mexico City after a six-day holiday on the communist-ruled Caribbean island.

The family was refused consular access and officials from the Cuban Interior Ministry took them by van to an undisclosed location.

There, they were jailed in an underground room without light and were forced to wait several hours before being interrogated.

Mr Grimmer, Motorola Australia's communications and public affairs manager, said he was told visa numbers had been stolen from Cuba's consulate in Sydney.

Now recovering in Cusco, Peru, the family told The Australian they blamed the poor treatment on Cuba's prickly relationship with the US, a key Australian ally.

"I kept telling them our visas were fine," Mr Grimmer said.

"Some Canadians were also held at the airport, apparently, so we had the feeling that it was political and these people on duty had some beef against Australia.

"While our treatment was so poor ... we weren't scared for our lives or anything, but we still don't know why (we were arrested)."

Mr Grimmer said he believed the incarceration was politically motivated and his family was freed only after officials learned he had managed to alert his employer in Melbourne from a telephone box at Havana airport.

He had been taken from his cell after his interrogation, driven in a secure car to a shop to buy biscuits for his sick daughter and then to the airport to sort out missed flights.

Mr Grimmer's Peruvian-born wife, Silvia, believed Cuban authorities suspected them of spying because Australians "are a friend of the US", regularly denounced by Cuba's dictator of more than 40 years, Fidel Castro.

"The reason (we were jailed) is they wanted to bother people who are not friends of Cuba," she said.

She said Lia remained severely traumatised. She was sick at the time of the arrest and a Cuban doctor called in to treat her gave her nothing but a glass of water.

The incident has sparked a diplomatic rebuke from Australia, with a Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade spokesman confirming Cuba's consul-general in Sydney had been contacted and concerns expressed over the family's detention.

The Cuban consulate yesterday refused to comment about the alleged visa thefts, the family's ordeal and whether authorities in Australia were investigating any security breaches.

The DFAT spokesman said that refusing consular access breached international conventions, to which Cuba was a signatory.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Cuba; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cuba
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1 posted on 02/24/2005 10:09:18 AM PST by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan

They would have gotten better treatment if they went to gitmo instead.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 10:12:59 AM PST by hoosierboy
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To: The Bronze Titan

Nice Australian. He visits a communist country, his family is detained and imprisioned for 12 hours and he blames the United States. We couldn't be any less-involved with cuba if we tried.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 10:17:22 AM PST by defenderoftheflag
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To: The Bronze Titan
Of course it's America's fault. ie: George W Bush What else could it possibly be.?? I wonder where the Aussie dweeb and his little family would be if he hadn't found that "Phone Box" at the airport.?
4 posted on 02/24/2005 10:17:33 AM PST by Pompah (The price of greatness is responsibility)
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To: The Bronze Titan
a Cuban doctor called in to treat her gave her nothing but a glass of water

Ah, Cuba's medical system is the envy of world.

5 posted on 02/24/2005 10:18:55 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Pompah

Excellent analysis. Just another example of someone not wanting to take responsibility for their decisions.


7 posted on 02/24/2005 10:25:04 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
"...they blamed the poor treatment on Cuba's prickly relationship with the US"

Bush's fault.

8 posted on 02/24/2005 10:28:22 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

The US is to blame for all the worlds ailments.


9 posted on 02/24/2005 10:28:52 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: The Bronze Titan

I didn't read this as the Aussie blaming the U.S. I interpreted it as him accusing Cuba of political retaliation. In other words, my sense is that his anger is directed at Cuba NOT the U.S.


10 posted on 02/24/2005 10:34:33 AM PST by KJC1
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To: The Bronze Titan

I'm sure he'll go back there for his next vacation. Everyone was so friendly.


11 posted on 02/24/2005 10:38:44 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: The Bronze Titan

Damned Cubians, don't even know how to torture people. I bet those prisoners wished the US had them instead of Cuba. We provide busty women wearing thongs to sit on your lap.


12 posted on 02/24/2005 10:39:42 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Well, I guess they should have went somewhere else for their vacation.... ;)


13 posted on 02/24/2005 10:40:42 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: defenderoftheflag

He needs his head examined for going in the first place.


14 posted on 02/24/2005 10:41:48 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; WestCoastGal; jerseygirl; TexasCowboy

Ping


15 posted on 02/24/2005 11:16:09 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
This Aussie is blowin on a Digeree-Don't..
i.e. a barrel that falls off a Foster Beer Wagon evidently rolls downhill..

Crikey... CUBA!.?. of all places with his daughter and wife.. LoL..
Even Steve Irwin is not that dumb...

16 posted on 02/24/2005 11:19:15 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Anyone is STUPID who would ever vacation in that Commie Hell Hole. Vacationing in this hell hole only supports Castros island prison.


17 posted on 02/24/2005 11:24:30 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: The Bronze Titan; Calpernia; All
How strange, this man is not a peon in Australia, he is an
involved businessman of importance.

This is the Google link to his name, it is easy to pick him
out.

Isn't Hutchison Whampoa Limited a Chinese company?

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Russell%20Grimmer
18 posted on 02/24/2005 11:32:03 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: wogworld

EXACTLY! That's why they figured he had to be a spy. Even Cubans realize there is no reason for any person from a developed country to visit their shithole of an island.


19 posted on 02/24/2005 11:32:44 AM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
"Isn't Hutchison Whampoa Limited a Chinese company?"

Yes. Good old Red China.

20 posted on 02/25/2005 5:05:36 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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