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Marine commandant says Fallujah shooting incident still under investigation
AFP ^ | 2/24/05

Posted on 02/24/2005 9:30:14 AM PST by TexKat

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US Marine Corps' commandant said an investigation was still open into the actions of a Marine who was captured on videotape killing a wounded Iraqi at point blank range during November's assault on Fallujah.

General Michael Hagee denied a CBS News report Wednesday that investigators have concluded there is insufficient evidence to charge the Marine.

"That report is not correct. The investigation is still ongoing. There has been no decision one way or the other," Hagee said at a breakfast with defense reporters.

Once the investigation is completed it will go to the US combatant commander, General John Abizaid, he said.

The November 13 shooting occurred during a search of a mosque in a widely broadcast incident that sparked worldwide outrage and was described by the International Committee of the Red Cross as a demonstration of "utter contempt for humanity."

But Hagee said that email he has received from members of the public has expressed "strong support for the individual marine, and we ought to do nothing on that."

He said the volume of email he had received on the matter was high compared to the response to other incidents.

In the incident, a trooper raised his rifle and shot point blank at an apparently unarmed, wounded Iraqi who was slumped against one of the mosque walls, in footage captured by an embedded cameraman working for the NBC network.

Although the insurgents were found to be unarmed, investigators said the one the Marine believed he had seen moving could have been reaching for a weapon.

The rifleman was withdrawn from combat pending the results of the investigation, but the graphic footage enraged many, months after the scandal over US troops' abuse of inmates at the Abu Ghraib prison.

The raid on Fallujah, part of an attempt at reclaiming key lawless enclaves across the country ahead of January elections, has been the largest military operation in Iraq since the March 2003.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fallujah; fallujahmarine; iraq; marine
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General Michael Hagee, seen here in 2004 denied a CBS News report Wednesday that investigators have concluded there is insufficient evidence to charge the Marine(AFP/File/Stephen Jaffe)

1 posted on 02/24/2005 9:30:18 AM PST by TexKat
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Marine commandant says Fallujah shooting incident still under investigation. Ping!!!

I'm getting mighty sick and tired of some of these media outlets.

2 posted on 02/24/2005 9:33:02 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Sounds like this is going nowhere, so hopefully the Marine will be cleared and we can all go back to shooting terrorists in peace.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 9:34:09 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: TexKat
why did he say that CBS's reports weren't correct.
I would have said something like....

"CBS's report was lie and a blatant disregard for the facts. CBS's report was a blatant attempt to undermind are investigation are pressing the appropriate charges"
4 posted on 02/24/2005 9:34:43 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier then working)
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To: tfecw
hmm insert an "and we" in the appropriate place ;)
5 posted on 02/24/2005 9:35:55 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier then working)
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To: TexKat

I am disappointed by this news...I am not surprised that the media made an error.


6 posted on 02/24/2005 9:36:33 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: TexKat

Wow...you mean CBS misreported what the story really was???

No Shock there. They did the same with Vietnam.

Gannon may have a freakish past...but it seems the guy's reporting is better than the reporting of CBS.


7 posted on 02/24/2005 9:41:29 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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Marine commandant says Fallujah shooting incident still under investigation ping.


8 posted on 02/24/2005 9:44:18 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

The only surprise in CBS's reporting is that they didn't say the Marine had been convicted of murder. That is usually CBS's take on things.


9 posted on 02/24/2005 9:45:08 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: TexKat
The November 13 shooting occurred during a search of a mosque in a widely broadcast incident that sparked worldwide outrage and was described by the International Committee of the Red Cross as a demonstration of "utter contempt for humanity."

One more reason NOT to give any Tsunami donations to this organization (International version anyway).

10 posted on 02/24/2005 9:48:53 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: TexKat

Why do these A$$clowns continue to call Marines troopers? Last time I checked there were no crossed swords on mine or any other Marines uniforms!


11 posted on 02/24/2005 9:51:03 AM PST by sean327 (All men are created equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: TexKat
In the incident, a trooper raised his rifle and shot point blank at an apparently unarmed, wounded Iraqi who was slumped against one of the mosque walls, in footage captured by an embedded cameraman working for the NBC network.

Ok, I guess I'm a little slow. Why is this being investigated? As I recall (and by his own admission) John F'n Kerry gave himself a Silver Star for beaching his boat (against SOP), chasing down a wounded, half-naked Vietnamese teenager (wounded by a round from the boat's .50 cal guns) and killing him.

So, please, someone help me understand why this trooper is being investigated for killing a TERRORIST MURDERER!!!!??????
12 posted on 02/24/2005 9:53:19 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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Marine commandant says Fallujah shooting incident still under investigation. Ping!!!


13 posted on 02/24/2005 9:56:24 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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This is CBS trying to poison the water and get the public riled up about a Marine getting off without punishment. The Marines are more than capable of investigating this without CBS rumors. I am sure the Marine in question will get a fair shake and hopefully be returned to duty without any punishment. The next person these A-holes will go after is the 1st Lt. who killed the two terrorists while being attacked. If they raise enough stink they might be able to effect the decision. Fortunately, the Marines have resisted bowing to media pressure better than the other services, hopefully that will be the case in these two investigations. This old squid has his fingers crossed.
14 posted on 02/24/2005 9:57:21 AM PST by mortal19440
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To: TexKat

CBS - can't believe anything they report. The International Red Cross - has a very bad reputation amongst our military from previous wars. So, may I recommend with give this Marine the medal he deserves.


15 posted on 02/24/2005 9:57:48 AM PST by maxwellp
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To: TexKat
The US Marine Corps' commandant said an investigation was still open into the actions of a Marine who was captured on videotape killing a wounded Iraqi at point blank range during November's assault on Fallujah.

Seems to me the only investigation should be to determine whether to award him the Bronze Star or the Silver Star.

16 posted on 02/24/2005 10:01:18 AM PST by night reader
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To: TexKat

Seems like the trial ballon must have taken a lot of leftist anger.


17 posted on 02/24/2005 10:02:00 AM PST by Raycpa
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Marine commandant says Fallujah shooting incident still under investigation. Ping!!!


18 posted on 02/24/2005 10:08:31 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
CBS original source, ugghhh. Hopefully it will still turn out right for this marine doing his duty. " We were fired upon from this mosque sir. Yes sir, we followed the rules of engagement and did not destroy this holy place of worship. We put ourselves in harms way and went inside to engage the enemy directly sir. One of the wounded AIF started moving, so, to prevent the possibility of him triggering an explosion that might destroy this holy place of worship and/or inflicting serious injuries to the embedded reporter, I removed the threat. Yes sir, thank you sir." How's that for the PC version?
19 posted on 02/24/2005 10:33:43 AM PST by kc2theline (Support our troops and the CIC that sends them to defend us.)
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To: TexKat
seeBS screwed up again?

Say it ain't so Joe, say it aint so.

Crap...that's what I get for wanting to believe yesterdays report.

20 posted on 02/24/2005 10:37:33 AM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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