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"Pro-life" Romney rankles anti-abortion activists
Boston Herald ^ | 2/24/05 | David R. Guarino

Posted on 02/24/2005 8:54:29 AM PST by advance_copy

Anti-abortion activists chided Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday for his new, self-attached ``pro-life'' label, saying efforts to appeal to conservatives are in vain because his position mirrors that of liberal Democrat Sen. John F. Kerry.

``No offense to the people of Massachusetts but, within the pro-life movement, when a Massachusetts politician says he is personally pro-life, warning bells go off,'' said Tom McClusky, director of government affairs at the conservative Family Research Council. ``That's the exact same thing John Kerry [related, bio] says.''

Added Carol Tobias, political director for the National Right to Life Committee: ``John Kerry said that he was personally opposed to abortion but wouldn't do anything to stop it. Mitt Romney's position doesn't seem any different.''

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; logicalfallacy; massachusetts; prolife; romney; shilln4hillary; sleepertroll
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It's good to see the FRC and NRTLC take on this blatant attempt to manipulate pro-life Republicans by RINOs using semantic gyrations. "Personally pro-life" is the same thing John Kerry said, and it is pro-abort, period.
1 posted on 02/24/2005 8:54:38 AM PST by advance_copy
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I think there's a huge distinction to be made between a politician who is a phony Catholic and one who is a devout Mormon.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 8:57:09 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (You are reading my 6,000th post, since November.)
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I have a feeling abortion isn't going to be a big issue in 2008. When the Repubs are going up against HRC, I think an "Anybody But HRC" mentality will sweep away a lot of nuance.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 8:58:18 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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I'm pro-life! I'm pro-life! I'm pro-life!

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There, I've said it three times while standing on a dead chicken and waving three cats above my head.... it's true!

4 posted on 02/24/2005 8:59:13 AM PST by MarineBrat ("God is dead"- Nietzsche,1886. "Nietzsche is dead"- God,1901)
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I can't see a Mormon winning the Bible Belt.


5 posted on 02/24/2005 8:59:37 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

Unfortunately, I think you may be correct in that assessment.


6 posted on 02/24/2005 9:01:29 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (You are reading my 6,000th post, since November.)
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I think there's a huge distinction to be made between a politician who is a phony Catholic and one who is a devout Mormon.

What is so "devout" about supporting baby-killing?

7 posted on 02/24/2005 9:01:51 AM PST by madprof98
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I can....one sure beats a lapsed Catholic


8 posted on 02/24/2005 9:03:38 AM PST by bobjam
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I can't see a Mormon winning the Bible Belt.

I agree. Isn't it ironic that Utah voted for Bush 70%...the reddest of the red? And Clinton actually finished third in popular votes in '92. Yet, Romney seems to have no real prospects for presidency because he shares Utah's predominant religion. Go figure.

9 posted on 02/24/2005 9:07:26 AM PST by Lekker 1 ("Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value"-Ferdinand Foch, French War College, 1911)
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Romney is as pro-life as Hillary Rodham-Stalin.


10 posted on 02/24/2005 9:08:04 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Liberalism kills.)
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By lumping an individual such as Mitt Romney in with the same company as hypocrites such as Mario "The Svatchim" Cuomo, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, inter alia, you're completely misrepresenting his position on this issue.

The activists who are demanding he adopt a full-throated opposition to the gruesome practice of abortion are ensuring that he will never be elected-or reelected-to any office in the near or remote future.

This is the same mentality that leads to retrospective criticism of Abraham Lincoln for not advocating full and complete racial equality in mid-19th Century, rural Illinois.

In an abstract, purely theoretical sense, you may be completely in the right.

However, in the non-Utopian world of political machinations and legislative compromises, this position is completely and utterly groundless.

11 posted on 02/24/2005 9:09:01 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (You are reading my 6,000th post, since November.)
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Sad, but-most likely-true.


12 posted on 02/24/2005 9:09:57 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (You are reading my 6,000th post, since November.)
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I think there's a huge distinction to be made between a politician who is a phony Catholic and one who is a devout Mormon.

That's funny, I'm pretty sure Kerry said that he was a practicing Catholic, don't you trust him like you trust pro-abortion pro-life Romney?

13 posted on 02/24/2005 9:11:42 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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I dunno, I didn't see him winning Massachusetts.

Would the Bible-belt prefer HRC?

14 posted on 02/24/2005 9:12:07 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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It's good to see the FRC and NRTLC take on this blatant attempt to manipulate pro-life Republicans by RINOs using semantic gyrations. "Personally pro-life" is the same thing John Kerry said, and it is pro-abort, period.

Then again if he was a solid pro-life candidate this wouldn't be an issue now would it?

15 posted on 02/24/2005 9:12:37 AM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
The activists who are demanding he adopt a full-throated opposition to the gruesome practice of abortion are ensuring that he will never be elected-or reelected-to any office in the near or remote future.

Oh, now I get it!!! Devout Mormons are those who are against abortion when everybody else is against it, but are for abortion when everybody else is for it. And let me see . . . that would differentiate them from devout Catholics like the Kennedys in exactly what way?

16 posted on 02/24/2005 9:12:40 AM PST by madprof98
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
The activists who are demanding he adopt a full-throated opposition to the gruesome practice of abortion are ensuring that he will never be elected-or reelected-to any office in the near or remote future.

That is complete bull. The only one ensuring Romney ain't gonna be reelected is Romney, running around playing at running for president -- as if he had a prayer in the world!!! ha ha! -- when he's trailing in the polls for his reelection, hasn't succeeded in building the state GOP, hasn't accomplished anything as governor.

The guy's a joke!

17 posted on 02/24/2005 9:14:10 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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Religon has nothing to do with why Romney is unacceptable.
He is a fraud of a Rino.

Anti-gun, anti-life.


18 posted on 02/24/2005 9:17:04 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Anti-gun, anti-life.

And pro-gay (except for marriage).

19 posted on 02/24/2005 9:18:47 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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The grim truth is, and I have said it on FR before, is that the pro life movement has enjoyed a legacy marked mostly by failure since their huge loss in 1973. They never recovered and have been a fairly ineffective force since then when it comes to actual policy.

There are about 1.5 million abortions a year and at least some of the responsibility for that stunning figure rests at least partly with the pro life movement since 1973 - the issue in 1973 was if abortion should be legal in all 50 states or not. In 2004 the issue is whether the guardians of minors seeking abortions should be notified, and if late-term abortion should be legal.

Granted both issues are no-brainers and the consensus in the usa is on the right side of these two issues, but the fact that they are contentious issues tells you a lot: the pro life movement has been beaten so far back that they fight for their lives on what are, esentially, uncontrovertial issues.

The pro life leadership needs a housecleaning and a new strategy. What they have been doing isn't very effective - that much is clear to anybody with an ounce of clarity on the matter.


20 posted on 02/24/2005 9:19:40 AM PST by HitmanLV
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