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To: oursouls
Dude, I don't give a shit about that list. I don't need a license to:

own a tv; you do.
own a gun; you can't.

I know that if the governemnt comes through the door of my home they will have obtained a warrant from a judge based on probable cause. You don't because your government isn't so restrained.

I have 10 very specific individual rights enshrined in a document - you don't.

That (document is/those rights are) continuously under attack by people who say they want us to live under a governmetn like yours...and they are very anti-individual rights. What does that tell you?

So the Heritage Foundation can stick it's study. And as I've previously posted, the US is definately right behind the UK in restricting individual rights in favor of the State.

That said, I'm still a citizen and you're still a subject. I'm a politically sovereign entity under our form of government and your are not under yours.

Any questions?

75 posted on 02/24/2005 4:56:41 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Abundy

Strictly speaking British people don't need a licence to own a TV, just to watch the BBC. Its a tax or subscription, not a licence except by an accident of nomenclature.

Several court cases have been won by "licence-dodgers" on the basis that their TV was for watching non-BBC products. I will be joining their ranks when I've adequately researched the subject.


79 posted on 02/24/2005 5:03:57 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Abundy

** "Dude, I don't give a s**t about that list."

Please refrain from profanity of here, it upsets some folks and is against the wishes of the founder/owner.

Aside from that, you should care because it was compilled by a conservative American organisation and you as a conservative American should concern yourself with the fact that your country is not among the freeest in the world.

** "I don't need a license to:
own a tv; you do.
own a gun; you can't."

Granted, but there are things that we in the UK can do, which you can't. Cross the road and sip a beer in a public place being two of them. I'm sure there are others.

** I know that if the governemnt comes through the door of my home they will have obtained a warrant from a judge based on probable cause. You don't because your government isn't so restrained.

Not true. Same applies here, our authorities cannot enter a private premises without a warrent. Our authorities are also not allowed to tap our telephones without special permission from our Home Secretary (whichnis rare) and they are also not allowed to use phone tap evidence against us in court.

You do not have this privacy.

** I have 10 very specific individual rights enshrined in a document - you don't.

We have the magna carta, upon which your rights (and most of the rest of the civilised world's rights) are based.

** "That (document is/those rights are) continuously under attack by people who say they want us to live under a governmetn like yours...and they are very anti-individual rights. What does that tell you?"

That tells me that you haven't done your research properly.

** "That said, I'm still a citizen and you're still a subject. "

Wrong again. We Brits are citizens. It says so on my passport.


81 posted on 02/24/2005 5:10:36 AM PST by oursouls
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To: Abundy

Here's something funny: You don't need a license to own a TV; you just need one to watch BBC. That's fine with me - there's a lot of great stuff on BBC.

Here's something even funnier: I, and most Brits, don't want to own a gun and couldn't give a sh*t about having the right to own one.

This one's hysterical: "I know that if the governemnt comes through the door of my home they will have obtained a warrant from a judge based on probable cause. You don't because your government isn't so restrained."

Actually, British police do need search warrants - you must have missed that during your research on the subject - and ever heard of the Patriot Act? They can enter your home, search it and never tell you about it.

"That said, I'm still a citizen and you're still a subject."

Wrong. Brits are citizens. This stuff about 'subjects' is archaic rubbish.

Any questions?



85 posted on 02/24/2005 5:21:59 AM PST by Bombay Bloke
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To: Abundy
I'm a politically sovereign entity

Awwww, that's so sweet.

86 posted on 02/24/2005 5:24:03 AM PST by Killing Time
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To: Abundy
A good thing about the TV license is that it enables one to watch TV without all the tiresome ads.

Each to his own....

135 posted on 02/24/2005 12:52:01 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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