Posted on 02/24/2005 12:00:03 AM PST by amdgmary
Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Florida Governor Jeb Bush may have found a method of helping Terri Schiavo, the disabled woman at the center of a national euthanasia controversy.
The Florida Department of Children & Families investigated a way to intervene in the case on Wednesday, just hours after Bush told reporters in a press conference that he would do everything legally possible to help Terri's parents prevent her estranged husband from starving her to death.
Details of just how DCF would get involved were not yet available, according to an Associated Press report.
Also on Wednesday, Circuit Court Judge George Greer extended a stay preventing the starvation until Friday so the Schindlers could have two more days to take care of additional appeals and legal motions.
However, Judge Greer prevented a DCF representative from being able to speak at the afternoon hearing.
The news had Terri's father, Bob Schindler, hopeful again.
"We are really elated," Schindler told AP. "Forty-eight hours to us right now seems like six years. We pray to God and we thank God that we have some time and our very, very thankful that DCF has picked this up."
However, euthanasia advocate George Felos, the lead attorney for Michael, criticized the Bush administrations latest efforts saying it "reeks of the intervention of politics into the case and is an affront to the court."
DCF may have gotten involved, according to Felos and Schindler attorney David Gibbs, because of a bone scan conducted on Terri after she collapsed 15 years ago.
Though they were never investigated, because local authorities said they were too old to go into, DCF may be alleging that Michael abused Terri to cause the physical head trauma the scans displayed.
Terr is alleged to have made statements before the collapse to her family and friends that she was unhappy in her marriage, but Michael has denied hurting her.
In a press conference Wednesday, Bush said he was exploring every legal possibility to again prevent Terri from being starved to death. He called the effort a "work in progress."
"I can assure you, I will do whatever I can within the means, within the laws, of our state to protect this woman's life," Bush said Wednesday. "I won't go beyond that."
The governor said he has received thousands of calls and emails from supporters of Terri and that he and his staff are working with attorneys at the legislature to devise a solution.
"People with deep faith and big hearts are concerned, as I am about the circumstance that Ms. Schiavo is in," the governor continued. "I want them to know I will do what I can, but there are limits to what any particular person -- irrespective of the title they currently hold -- can do."
I just hope if I post it often enough someone will get the idea to Terri's father and they can get the DCF to demand the testing be done.
>>the person is justified in the use of deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
KidGlock, I was in the middle of this debate over the use of force over and abortion 12 years ago... I even talked to Paul Hill on the telephone while he was in Prison...
The argument doesn't fit the case, because in actuality you'd have to shoot the mother taking the child to be slaughtered. Shooting the abortionist will stop it temporarily, but the woman will simply find another who will kill the child.
Now if a woman was carrying a toddler, you have some standing since you could shoot her without killing the toddler...
>>So now we are back to the "asinine" statement I made earlier.
Exactly, it's asenine, and non-sequitor. We are not talking about stopping Terri's husband, we are talking about the Gov. exercising power he has.
>>And you wonder why I thought you were the type to to advocate taking a gun to an abortion clinic?
Actually, like I said, I don't advocate it. Quite the contrary...
You just assumed I did. Look up the word asinine, and apply the root word to yourself..
Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 787
KIDNAPPING; FALSE IMPRISONMENT; LURING OR ENTICING A CHILD; CUSTODY OFFENSES View Entire Chapter
787.02 False imprisonment; false imprisonment of child under age 13, aggravating circumstances.--
(1)(a) The term "false imprisonment" means forcibly, by threat, or secretly confining, abducting, imprisoning, **** or restraining another person WITHOUT LAWFUL AUTHORITY [ http://www.theempirejournal.com/0219056_gov.htm ] is
ang against her or his will.
(2) A person who commits the offense of false imprisonment is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
Link: http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?p=2&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0787/SEC02.HTM&Title=->2004->Ch0787->Section%2002
should read:
(1)(a) The term "false imprisonment" means forcibly, by threat, or secretly confining, abducting, imprisoning, **** or restraining another person WITHOUT LAWFUL AUTHORITY [ http://www.theempirejournal.com/0219056_gov.htm ] and against her or his will.
would have to make a case that it is against Terri's will.
Anyone:
(b) Pursuant to s. 775.021(4), nothing contained herein shall be construed to prohibit the imposition of *** separate judgments and sentences for the first degree offense described in paragraph (a) *** and for each separate offense enumerated in subparagraphs (a)1.-5.
Does this mean what I think it does....throw away the key? How many separate times has he confined Terri? How many others has he FRAUDENTLY, WITHOUT AUTHORITY, IMPRISONED?
I haven't been following this case closely, but it is sickening to realize that this is all about the abortion crowd run amok. It is criminal to starve a pet to death. But they use the word "vegetative" to suggest that she is no longer even an animal, she is essentially dead or perhaps a plant, of less moral value than a goat. They dehumanize her in a sick analogy to the way "fetus" is used to dehumanize an unborn baby.
Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!
In my humble opinion it's a RIGHT TO LIVE case.
"Now if a woman was carrying a toddler, you have some standing since you could shoot her without killing the toddler..."
Yes that is precisely the difference. You are absolutely right!
state troopers, not national guard.
I've been saying that and making calls to say it---for weeks!
Our right to life does not have to be expressed for the State. We live because we exist not because we need to tell the State that we are alive.
It's obvious that Terri's alive and after speech therapy, the last thing they'd want to talk to her about is her attempted murders by starvation, two so far, possibly a third tomorrow. If she gets the rehab she deserves, reliving the starvations would not be in her recovery protocol.
Terri bump
782.04 Murder.--
(1)(a) The ***UNLAWFUL KILLING of a human being:
1. When perpetrated from a premeditated design to effect the death of the person killed or any human being;
2. When committed by a person engaged in the perpetration of, or in the attempt to perpetrate, any: .....
d. Robbery, ....
f. Kidnapping, .....
i. ****** Aggravated abuse of an elderly person or disabled adult, .......
o. Murder of another human being,
****** is murder in the first degree and constitutes a capital felony, punishable as provided in s. 775.082.
(b) In all cases under this section, the procedure set forth in s. 921.141 shall be followed in order to determine sentence of death or life imprisonment.
(2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.....
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0782/ch0782.htm
If you or I walked into a courtroom and impersonated a judge, sentencing 'undesirables' [as the Nazis used to call their victims] to death, would we or would we not be considered guilty of premeditated murder?
In Greer's eyes, is THIS why Terri has to die? To justify all those who have gone before her?
Intriguing possiblity, but I want to see results first ...
782.051 Attempted felony murder.--
(1) Any person who perpetrates or attempts to perpetrate any felony enumerated in s. 782.04(3) and who commits, aids, or abets an intentional act that is not an essential element of the felony and that could, but does not, cause the death of another commits a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life, or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, which is an offense ranked in level 9 of the Criminal Punishment Code. Victim injury points shall be scored under this subsection.
(2) Any person who perpetrates or attempts to perpetrate any felony other than a felony enumerated in s. 782.04(3) and who commits, aids, or abets an intentional act that is not an essential element of the felony and that could, but does not, cause the death of another commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, which is an offense ranked in level 8 of the Criminal Punishment Code. Victim injury points shall be scored under this subsection.
(3) When a person is injured during the perpetration of or the attempt to perpetrate any felony enumerated in s. 782.04(3) by a person other than the person engaged in the perpetration of or the attempt to perpetrate such felony, the person perpetrating or attempting to perpetrate such felony commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, which is an offense ranked in level 7 of the Criminal Punishment Code. Victim injury points shall be scored under this subsection.
History.--s. 1, ch. 96-359; s. 18, ch. 97-194; s. 12, ch. 98-204; s. 4, ch. 2001-236.
782.07 Manslaughter; aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult; aggravated manslaughter of a child; aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic.--
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) A person who causes the death of any elderly person or disabled adult by culpable negligence under s. 825.102(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0782/ch0782.htm
The only problem with asking Terri is that take me for instance. I don't have to tell anyone today or tomorrow if I want to be here. She shouldn't have to either. There were no WRITTEN DIRECTIVES. End of story.
Our right to life does not have to be expressed for the State. We live because we exist not because we need to tell the State that we are alive.
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I agree, and it looks as if the state does as well:
History.--s. 12, ch. 89-96.
744.1095 Hearings.--At any hearing under this chapter, the alleged incapacitated person or the adjudicated ward has the right to:
(1) **** Remain silent and refuse to testify at the hearing. The person may not be held in contempt of court or otherwise penalized for refusing to testify. ***** Refusal to testify may not be used as evidence of incapacity;
(2) Testify;
(3) Present evidence;
(4) Call witnesses;
(5) Confront and cross-examine all witnesses; and
(6) Have the hearing open or closed as she or he may choose.
History.--s. 13, ch. 89-96; s. 6, ch. 90-271; s. 1069, ch. 97-102.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0744/ch0744.htm
Bump!
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