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To: Fedora
Yes, but they would immaterial, since I'm not the one making allegations based on hearsay

No, you have most certainly run to the defense of Mr. Chalabi and suggested those who don't see him in a favorable light are somehow bias - When it is you that is oddly bias towards him....(when in fact you have never worked with him or met him) -

Yet, those SOF who have worked with him - You immediately question their motives or even more oddly try and suggest they are entirely different people! (that is the weirdest thing I have possibly ever seen! - And funniest). -

As for you now trying to suggest you didn't try to claim Mr. Burns and Mr. Wurst weren't other people - Than what was your whole post about (with links) to two men with the same names (well, not even the same name with Mr. Wurst, just the same last name....which oddly for you was close enough) - If you weren't trying to suggest that these were the same people than why even post all that -

You knew clearly I wasn't talking about them, because I was talking about about the SOF "on the record" within the detailed and documented book Masters of Chaos -

You then most certainly did take those two names I listed (after you asked for names) and oddly suggested could I possible mean these two other people - (again, wow, is that nuts!).

As for repeating hearsay, I said from the beginning with regard to a family friend that is part of the US SOF community what his take was on Mr. Chalabi - There is absolutely nothing wrong with that -

And let me add further the weight of US Special Operations officer holds a lot of water (IMO - and to many others) - Especially one that has worked in Iraq and Afghanistan -

For you to immediately question this gentleman's word....and or his motives behind them - And do so, while trying to defend Mr. Chalabi (a man that was arrested by US Forces) - It makes me really start to question your judgment and "motives" -

Not that you oddly and weirdly trying to suggest two other people were actually Major Burns and Major Wurst didn't already do that for me!

What case is closed is you clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about when it comes to US SOF in Iraq nor what those who worked with Mr. Chalabi on the ground think of him -

25 posted on 02/26/2005 7:09:33 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix; piasa; Tailgunner Joe
Nope, I haven't defended Chalabi, I've only asked you to provide a witness and details to substantiate your frequently-repeated allegation against him, which you've failed to do on two threads now after posting your allegation on numerous threads. To correct an error in your post, you claim, "I said from the beginning with regard to a family friend that is part of the US SOF community what his take was on Mr. Chalabi". As a matter of fact, when we first started discussing this in a previous thread, you initially provided no information at all as to the identity of your source or the details of their allegation. When I questioned you on this after you made some rude comments to piasa due to your apparent inability to understand sarcasm, you sent private messages to me and others citing alleged reasons why you could not post the source of your information. Since then you have switched tactics and provided a vague description of your alleged source with no supporting details to substantiate your claim. Meanwhile to distract from the fact that you have been spreading hearsay without providing any facts to back it up, you attack anyone who requests supporting details from you by namecalling, insinuating that they are insulting the honesty and honor of Special Forces troops, etc. In point of fact, contrary to your insinuation that what is at stake here is the honesty of Special Forces troops, you have not named any actual source in Special Forces: you just keep making vague references to vague statements that you allege some Special Forces people have said about Chalabi being a "snake" (whatever that means in concrete terms--I keep asking you to provide details and you repeatedly avoid doing so). It is you who smear Special Forces by invoking them as a smokescreen to hide behind when you cannot substantiate your rumors. Why should anyone here believe you when you cite an anonymous source making vague allegations about a controversial topic and then rudely attack anyone who requests corroboration of your story?

When you come up with some actual quotes or page references from Masters of Chaos to document your statements on Burns and Wurst, let me know. Meanwhile I will be reviewing the book myself to try to identify what you're referring to there--I see Chapter 12 covers Nasiriya. BTW, why do you think citing a book on the history of SF that only includes about 100 pages on Iraq makes you more "informed" on Chalabi than others? The "looting" allegations you allude to were discussed on FR long before you came along with your outdated information and unsubstantiated hearsay.

27 posted on 02/26/2005 11:16:20 AM PST by Fedora
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