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Nope, I haven't defended Chalabi, I've only asked you to provide a witness and details to substantiate your frequently-repeated allegation against him, which you've failed to do on two threads now after posting your allegation on numerous threads. To correct an error in your post, you claim, "I said from the beginning with regard to a family friend that is part of the US SOF community what his take was on Mr. Chalabi". As a matter of fact, when we first started discussing this in a previous thread, you initially provided no information at all as to the identity of your source or the details of their allegation. When I questioned you on this after you made some rude comments to piasa due to your apparent inability to understand sarcasm, you sent private messages to me and others citing alleged reasons why you could not post the source of your information. Since then you have switched tactics and provided a vague description of your alleged source with no supporting details to substantiate your claim. Meanwhile to distract from the fact that you have been spreading hearsay without providing any facts to back it up, you attack anyone who requests supporting details from you by namecalling, insinuating that they are insulting the honesty and honor of Special Forces troops, etc. In point of fact, contrary to your insinuation that what is at stake here is the honesty of Special Forces troops, you have not named any actual source in Special Forces: you just keep making vague references to vague statements that you allege some Special Forces people have said about Chalabi being a "snake" (whatever that means in concrete terms--I keep asking you to provide details and you repeatedly avoid doing so). It is you who smear Special Forces by invoking them as a smokescreen to hide behind when you cannot substantiate your rumors. Why should anyone here believe you when you cite an anonymous source making vague allegations about a controversial topic and then rudely attack anyone who requests corroboration of your story?

When you come up with some actual quotes or page references from Masters of Chaos to document your statements on Burns and Wurst, let me know. Meanwhile I will be reviewing the book myself to try to identify what you're referring to there--I see Chapter 12 covers Nasiriya. BTW, why do you think citing a book on the history of SF that only includes about 100 pages on Iraq makes you more "informed" on Chalabi than others? The "looting" allegations you allude to were discussed on FR long before you came along with your outdated information and unsubstantiated hearsay.

The final bottom line is you don't have a clue to what you are talking about - Your posts make that obvious.

And you most certainly are trying to support Mr. Chalabi and act as if any allegations against him (including are OWN US TROOPS arresting him!) are based on false allegations.

Again, I will say, that our troops on the ground know more about Mr. Chalabi than you do! Period.

I will further go on to say, as I have from the start - A good family friend of ours is part of the SOF community. Has been for the past 18 years. He was in Nasiriya at the same time Mr. Chalabi was (while his mission was not with the ODA's who were responsible for Mr. Chalabi - he most certainly did talk with those soliders within those 2 ODA's and I have passed along his comments).

Again, his word compared to yours is worth 100 fold the weight!

Mr. Chalabi has been proven to be a liar and a self-promoter since minute one. He gave all sorts of false information to the Pentagon prior to our invasion. No one can deny this - His information was flat out wrong.

On the ground in Nasiriya Mr. Chalabi was more concerned with his priorities than that of the American forces protecting him (this is detalied in Masters of Chaos).

Your continued assertion that more evidence needs to be brought up against Mr. Chalabi is foolishness - He gave Americans false information prior to the invasion - He put his concerns over the objectives of the American SOF protecting him (and his men) - He was arrested by US FORCES!! for giving information away to Iran and holding materials that he was not suppose to have (US materials) -

But you go ahead - keep insisting that everyone else is wrong about Mr. Chalabi and that everyone who says he is a dirt-bag (who has worked with him) they are all simple wrong and have some type of weird political reason for saying such.

Or better yet, why don't you go goolge some more names of SOF guys and suggest they are really other people and not US Soldiers. (that is just too funny and nuts!).

I have also wasted enough of my time with you regarding this subject. The facts are the facts about Mr. Chalabi -

I work in the security business and know I can trust the word of the man who has told me about Mr. Chalabi. Trust him with my life as a matter of fact.

Just as the Democrats, MSM and most of Europe were on the wrong side of history with regard to the war in Iraq - You are on the wrong side of history when it comes to Mr. Chalabi.

Period.

I'm out.