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1 posted on 02/23/2005 4:41:54 AM PST by spectrout
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To: spectrout
They blame the rise of CO2, now about 370 parts per million and rapidly climbing, on us evil humans for using fossil fuels, driving SUVs and barbecuing frankfurters on our backyard grills. They ignore the proven fact that over millions of years, every time CO2 levels have risen above 200 parts per million, an ice age has occurred.

I really get sick of all the greenies whining about Kyoto and greenhouse stuff. One day it's global warming, then it's global cooling, then warming again. They can't seem to make up their minds. And like posted in your post, they are deliberately ignoring all evidence that contradicts their theory.

2 posted on 02/23/2005 4:49:07 AM PST by William of Orange (Liberalism: killing babies good, killing criminals bad...)
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We've forgotten that this isn't the first time our seas have warmed. Sea temperatures also shot upward 10º to 18ºF just prior to the last ice age.

All these so called scientists just can't admit the earth has natural cycles of heating/cooling.

Guess it's more PC to blame it on those eeeeevil SUVs!

4 posted on 02/23/2005 4:54:16 AM PST by MamaTexan (Welcome to Free Republic, the home of the conservative cyber cannibals. ;^)
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To: spectrout
Sunspot activity.
No. Comets.
Wait. Vocanoes, that's what will do us in.

It's got to be a good sign that we have so much time on our hands, the job of surviving has been reduced to such a trivial problem that we can spend gigawatts of mental energy fretting about how nature will make us extinct unless...

What? We start sacrificing maidens again?
Send Earth First! a check every month? Make tofu our official national food?
Elect greenies our leaders?

Wait. Is it that there are tens of thousands of marginally functional people who like to party and invent ways to avoid getting real jobs, and would rather we keep supporting them?

I already have my Save the Gay Handicapped Whales for Jesus sticker on my bicycle.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

5 posted on 02/23/2005 4:57:03 AM PST by Publius6961
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The weather forecasters can’t accurately tell me what tomorrow’s high or low temperature will be, but they can tell me what the temperature is going to be 50 and 100 years from now. Ponder that.

Oh yeah, they are using COMPUTER MODELS, so this global warming BS has to be true. Nod knowingly, curtsy, bow, and genuflect to the computer model oracle. Trash in = trash out.

The crux of the sham is that the science ignorant masses are being led to believe that the complexity of global weather is not only understood, but that it can be accurately modeled!

For example, have the all knowing and all seeing computer models included ALL the effects that perhaps might mitigate a global warming trend? Have these tin foil hat global warming computer model Poly Anna kool aid drinkers considered factors such as if global warming is occurring then the need for heating oil decreases substantially resulting in less pollution?

Kyota protocol – yeah right, this entire global warming thing is nothing more than another extortion attempt by the worlds’ left. This is about money folks. Them taking money out of your pocket and putting it into theirs.

To presume that man has the ability to predict, let alone control the temperature of the earth is not just supreme arrogance, it is stupidity.


7 posted on 02/23/2005 5:02:24 AM PST by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: spectrout
Well I'm in flux on this issue. I'm really not sure what to think.

On one hand we have the claims from the left, who I KNOW to be unreliable sources of info, and who definitely have their underlying motives that could be driving their arguments --- No progress, business is bad, protect every single inconsequential species etc.

But on the other hand, there seems to be a growing list of evidence. It does not seem to be conclusive, at least not yet. But Average temps are rising, winters are warmer, and so are summers, glaciers are retreating, and warm-weather plants are showing up in cold weather places like the Boundary Waters of Minnesota.

There are two reasons for conservatives not to get ahead of either argument here:

[1] Being proved wrong, would destroy credibiblity,just as being proved wrong destroyed the credibility of the left.

[2] If Global Warming IS Real, doing the Right things about it, whatever they are, is the smart thing to do.

Conservatives need to be smart about this.

8 posted on 02/23/2005 5:04:18 AM PST by 9999lakes
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Call me skeptical...

But...

We don't have all that long to wait to find out...


11 posted on 02/23/2005 5:14:38 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: spectrout
They ignore the proven fact

I believe that about sums it up; enough said.

23 posted on 02/23/2005 5:46:59 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: spectrout

Sky is falling bump.


24 posted on 02/23/2005 5:53:26 AM PST by wbill
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I FOUND THE FORMULA THEY USED!!

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28 posted on 02/23/2005 6:04:13 AM PST by Dallas59 (Bush said the "F" word 27 times January 20th, 2005!)
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30 posted on 02/23/2005 6:10:24 AM PST by Fintan (©1950)
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To: spectrout
Sea temperatures also shot upward 10º to 18ºF just prior to the last ice age. How do we know this?
33 posted on 02/23/2005 6:23:17 AM PST by RioSmith
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To: spectrout

http://iceagenow.com/


34 posted on 02/23/2005 6:24:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: spectrout

Excellent post. The truth shall make us free.


37 posted on 02/23/2005 6:39:25 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: spectrout
What everyone seems to forget is that if it becomes important, humans could step in and do something about it. For example, one of the reasons why glaciers expand is that they are white and reflect a lot of sunlight. Simply coating growing glaciers with sand or a dark dye could let them melt back a lot more in the summer than they would naturally. And so on.
41 posted on 02/23/2005 6:59:20 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: spectrout

bump


43 posted on 02/23/2005 7:04:50 AM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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Boy, that makes feel a whole lot better, instead of having to run from the ocean for the next 50 years, I can look forward to getting frozen to death in less than 20.


55 posted on 02/23/2005 10:31:04 AM PST by Old Professer (As truth and fiction blend in the Mixmaster of History almost any sauce can be made palatable.)
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"The excess moisture then fell to the ground as giant blizzards, giant storms and floods (Noah's Deluge type floods),"

I am sure there are those in LA that would agree with that.


59 posted on 02/23/2005 2:50:56 PM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: spectrout

read later


60 posted on 02/23/2005 2:52:34 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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Global Warming: Methane Could Be Far Worse Than Carbon Dioxide
Environment

Technology

Methane gas, abundantly trapped as a half frozen slush in the northern hemisphere's tundra permafrost regions and at the bottom of the sea may well be a ticking time bomb, says geologist John Atcheson in an article published by the Baltimore Sun in December last year. Methane is about twenty times stronger as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. Since arctic warming seems to procede faster than expected, there is a real danger that deposits of methane and similar gases trapped in normally frozen ground, may thaw out and "belch" into the atmosphere, wreaking havoc with our computer simulations of global warming.

From here.
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/02/01/global_warming_methane_could_be_far_worse_than_carbon_dioxide.htm


62 posted on 02/23/2005 3:13:13 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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Does Robert Felix actually have any credibility? I know he has a book, but I had thought him to be a flake. Newsmax I know is lacking in credibility.


63 posted on 02/23/2005 5:57:09 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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