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The Myth of Greenhouse Gases
Newsmax ^ | Feb 23, 2005 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 02/23/2005 4:41:54 AM PST by spectrout

Listen up. This is very important. The global warming fanatics have fingered rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2), a so-called greenhouse gas alleged to be in the process of shoving the planet into a global microwave and raising sea levels to the point where the world's coastal regions will be submerged.

They blame the rise of CO2, now about 370 parts per million and rapidly climbing, on us evil humans for using fossil fuels, driving SUVs and barbecuing frankfurters on our backyard grills. They ignore the proven fact that over millions of years, every time CO2 levels have risen above 200 parts per million, an ice age has occurred.

Some 19,000 of the world's scientists and experts on climatology have signed declarations saying that blaming rising CO2 levels on mankind is garbage – junk science at its worst – and they insist that all the available evidence proves their contention.

Now comes Robert W. Felix, who in his book "Not by Fire but by Ice" argues persuasively that it is not global warming but ocean warming that is pushing CO2 levels through the roof. Moreover, those skyrocketing levels of CO2 are bringing on a new ice age, which is sitting at our front door right now.

According to Felix, the oceans are warming as the result of widespread underwater volcanic activity, which he thoroughly documents. He adds that "We've forgotten that this isn't the first time our seas have warmed. Sea temperatures also shot upward 10º to 18ºF just prior to the last ice age. As the oceans warmed, evaporation increased. The excess moisture then fell to the ground as giant blizzards, giant storms and floods (Noah's Deluge type floods), and a new ice age began." And he warns, "The same thing is happening today.

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To: add925

HaHa

Methane, a product of decomposition of organic matter.


21 posted on 02/23/2005 5:36:07 AM PST by spectrout
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To: spectrout
Methane, a product of decomposition of organic matter.

Another reason to say "Thank you Hollywood!" (for Methane, CO2, Private Jets, Limos, Excessive Electricity Use, Chemical Manufacturing...)

Hollywood, the Purveyors of Global Warming. Oh, the Humanity!

22 posted on 02/23/2005 5:44:40 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: spectrout
They ignore the proven fact

I believe that about sums it up; enough said.

23 posted on 02/23/2005 5:46:59 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: spectrout

Sky is falling bump.


24 posted on 02/23/2005 5:53:26 AM PST by wbill
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To: 9999lakes
doing the Right things about it, whatever they are, is the smart thing to do.

If you wish to amuse God tell him of your plans.

25 posted on 02/23/2005 5:53:47 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: 9999lakes
Michael Crichton gave an excellent speech on the subject .... "How aliens cause global warming". Long read, but very worthwhile.

He has some great analogies, the principle one being that global warming is an article of faith, not fact.

26 posted on 02/23/2005 6:00:26 AM PST by wbill
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To: MosesKnows

Nowhere in the 28 Articles of the Kyoto Protocols does it claim that anthropogenic CO2 causes Global Warming because to do so would require the data to support the claim and none exists. Global Warming rants are based on the junk science of socialists and doomsday grifters. The Geological Society of America informs us that what liitle climate change has occurred is caused by cosmic rays which ionize hydrogen nuclei in the atmoshere due to changing radiance of the Sun.


27 posted on 02/23/2005 6:03:59 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: spectrout
I FOUND THE FORMULA THEY USED!!

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28 posted on 02/23/2005 6:04:13 AM PST by Dallas59 (Bush said the "F" word 27 times January 20th, 2005!)
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To: palmer

There was a warming period when the Icelanders settled Greenland --- and then it became much colder, right? And the Greenland settlements were abandoned?

There seems to be much interesting information in the Sagas about this. And of course it had nothing to do with human activity. Unless all that cabbage and pork they ate....


29 posted on 02/23/2005 6:04:20 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: spectrout

 


30 posted on 02/23/2005 6:10:24 AM PST by Fintan (©1950)
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To: Fintan

Gotta be Lake Michigan.


31 posted on 02/23/2005 6:11:09 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")
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To: squarebarb
And the Greenland settlements were abandoned?

The alarmists claim that was due to changes in ocean currents. That may be partly true, but the warmer temperatures were recorded throughout the northern hemisphere, not just the north atlantic. But you are right that methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

32 posted on 02/23/2005 6:21:03 AM PST by palmer ("Oh you heartless gloaters")
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To: spectrout
Sea temperatures also shot upward 10º to 18ºF just prior to the last ice age. How do we know this?
33 posted on 02/23/2005 6:23:17 AM PST by RioSmith
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To: spectrout

http://iceagenow.com/


34 posted on 02/23/2005 6:24:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: 9999lakes
Average temps are rising, winters are warmer, and so are summers, glaciers are retreating

Not so fast. Glaciers are growing around the world, including the United States.

" To put this in perspective, you must realize that the Antarctic Ice Sheet and Greenland Ice Sheets are almost twice as big as the contiguous United States. They're almost 100 times bigger than all of the rest of the world's glaciers put together. In other words, more than 99 percent of the world's glaciers are growing ... and all we hear about are the few that are melting."

35 posted on 02/23/2005 6:29:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: Fintan

Geeezz

That's why I live way down South.


36 posted on 02/23/2005 6:30:44 AM PST by spectrout
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To: spectrout

Excellent post. The truth shall make us free.


37 posted on 02/23/2005 6:39:25 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: massgopguy
Nowhere in the 28 Articles of the Kyoto Protocols does it claim that anthropogenic CO2 causes Global Warming ...

????

Interesting. I wasn't aware of this. What is the basis for the protocol then?

38 posted on 02/23/2005 6:39:40 AM PST by kidd
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To: RioSmith

According to paleontologist Dewey McLean, a good portion of the Deccan Traps was submarine. This would explain why ocean temperatures at the dinosaur extinction rose by some 14° to 22°F. See http://filebox.vt.edu/artsci/geology/mclean/Dinosaur_Volcano_Extinction/index.html


39 posted on 02/23/2005 6:42:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: kidd

On a related subject, let me ask you. If today's rising carbon dioxide are caused by humans, then what caused the dramatic rise in CO2 levels at the dinosaur extinction?

Research shows that there was "a sudden and dramatic rise" in carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere at the dinosaur extinction of 65 million years ago. A recent report attributes the rise in CO2 levels to an asteroid impact. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2038599.stm

I disagree. I think today's rise in CO2 levels can be attributed to our warming oceans. After all, the oceans are known as a carbon dioxide "sink," especially when the water is cold.

But as the water warms up, it releases CO2 into the atmosphere. This happens in much the same way that a warm bottle of home-brewed root beer will release CO2. And if you give that CO2 no way to escape, the bottle will explode.

We've got it backwards. We've got cause and effect in reverse.

The CO2 is not causing global warming. Instead, our warming oceans are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere.

It's not global warming, it's ocean warming, and it's leading us into an ice age.


40 posted on 02/23/2005 6:44:30 AM PST by kabar
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