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A Little Engine That Could Make Gasoline Obsolete (Compressed Air Powered Car Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/22/05 | Dan Weikel

Posted on 02/22/2005 3:21:25 PM PST by goldstategop

These are no ordinary cars. Power comes from fresh air stored in reinforced carbon-fiber tanks beneath the chassis. Air is compressed to 4,500 pounds per square inch — about 150 times the pressure of the typical car tire. The air is fed into four cylinders where it expands, driving specially designed pistons. About 25 horsepower is generated.

Though technical problems are being worked out, company officials say the car is capable of 70 mph and a 120-mile range under normal city conditions, performance that is comparable to electric cars.

Critics say the car has had trouble living up to its range projections. But company officials say they are trying to overcome that by warming the stored air.

Recharging the onboard tanks takes about four hours using the car's small compressor, which can be plugged into any wall outlet. Gas stations equipped with special air pumps can replenish the tanks in about three minutes. Company officials say the oil only needs to be changed every 31,000 miles.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aretheykidding; autoshop; compressedaircar; ecocar; energy; environment; france; hotaircar; latestgadget; lol; lookmanogas; nogascar; runempty; shanana
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To: HKMk23
Many of the common carriers have newer tractors equipped with air starters; CWX, Roadway, et al. I don't know how many U.S. manufacturers are building them, but I know they've been out there on the roads for at least ten years, now.

That's cool if they are. I wasn't aware they are using them here. It certainly solves the "dead battery in winter" problem.

181 posted on 02/22/2005 7:34:51 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Thank you for the information, I did not know all that.

This is why I love FR.


182 posted on 02/22/2005 7:50:04 PM PST by JSteff
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To: buwaya

Yeah I know. It's actually not a bad idea. And even if it was, many bad ideas have turned genius with minor innovations. On the surface, it doesn't appear to be worthwhile. And yeah, I realize France is mostly nuclear-powered. Which would be a step away from oil-dependence. But I just really wanted to take a shot at France. =P But from an engineer's perspective, I don't think that would be too safe a method.


183 posted on 02/22/2005 9:23:47 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: shaggy eel

They'll have to pry my big, booming, gasoline powered, V8 engined, SUV and pickup From My Cold Dead Hands!

FMCDH ~ Bump!


184 posted on 02/23/2005 7:51:55 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: goldstategop

If hot air is better, hook old Sot Kennedy up to it. Hot air and alcohol would make a great misture.


185 posted on 02/23/2005 7:56:27 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: patton

I once saw a oxygen bottle (one of the big ones used in cutting torchs) fall and break off the valve. It took off like a photo torpedo and went through a foot thick concrete wall.


186 posted on 02/23/2005 7:56:46 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: goldstategop

Potential as a niche, special use vehicle... but will depend on its price tag. Also 3 hours is not acceptable recharge time if you don't happen to make it to the gas station pump... beef up the compressor or something.


187 posted on 02/23/2005 7:58:31 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: goldstategop

So what is the advantage? It takes power from somewhere to compress the air. Anytime energy is changed from chemical (or nuclear or hydroelectric or wind…) to electric to potential power is lost.
AH! It cuts down on the air pollution in Paris! – except for the power plants upwind of the city.


188 posted on 02/23/2005 8:01:37 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: goldstategop

BTTT


189 posted on 02/23/2005 8:01:41 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: goldstategop
“…filling it up with free air …” ??????
190 posted on 02/23/2005 8:03:40 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Sterco

191 posted on 02/23/2005 8:13:52 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Sterco
OR.........


192 posted on 02/23/2005 8:15:07 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Wonder what happens when these cars get a few years of salt corrosion and then get in an accident?

Once, years ago, I was trying to top-off a leaky car air conditioner with R-12, and accidentally dropped the full can of Freon right on the valve, which snapped off. The can leapt into the air and flew about a block down the street, ascending well above the treetops before it ran dry. That's a best-case scenario, only with people along for the ride.

193 posted on 02/23/2005 8:21:49 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: patton
That thing is an explosion waiting to happen.

Would a pinhole make it explode? Or would the carbon fiber reinforcement prevent that?

194 posted on 02/23/2005 8:23:04 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Charles Martel

LOL! Sounds like a huge seller!


195 posted on 02/23/2005 8:23:34 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

LOLOL!


196 posted on 02/23/2005 8:24:27 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Aquinasfan

You could make it explosion proof - but, it would have to be carried around on a battleship, it would be so heavy.


197 posted on 02/23/2005 8:25:37 AM PST by patton (Matthew 6:6)
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To: rellimpank
---ah yes--compressing air, of course, requires no energy----

Braking energy could be harnessed like it is in the gas/electric hybrids. The air tank would weigh a lot less than a bunch of batteries.

198 posted on 02/23/2005 8:25:55 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: jdege

"Isn't 4500 PSI about what we see in SCUBA tanks?" Yes but most tanks are at 3,000 psi. Just think about the movie Jaws when they shot the scuba tank and blew up the shark. Another car hitting one of these going 70 could have the same results.


199 posted on 02/23/2005 8:27:06 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: buwaya
The point being, with nuke electricity the French don't need to exhaust CO2 or anything else, and they don't need to import petroleum or anything else either. Their cost of fuel is near zero and the marginal cost of nuke electricity is also neaar zero.

Good point.

200 posted on 02/23/2005 8:33:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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