Feeding Tube To Remain. Judge Issues Stay.[Terri Schiavo]

[ConservativeMan55]

Per foxnews alert!

[jackibutterfly]

"Another 48 hours granted 2/23/2005, 4 PM EST.

What kind of games is the man playing????? What the HECK is he doing?? 48 hours for what?? To extend it another day, then when that time is reached, another hour, then when that time is reached, etc. What a cruel, inhumane monster Greer is - what the heck is he doing??? I wish, just for 1 week, he could trade places with Terri, and that someone would keep HIM apprised of what is going on - telling him that his feeding tube would be pulled in an hour, then come in and tell him, no, it won't be pulled until tomorrow, then when tomorrow comes, etc. He deserves the exact same thing. What a monster Greer is! How much more can the Schindlers take!

[uvular]

Thanks for the info regarding Michael getting social security payments from Teri. From articles I read, it sounds like Medicaid is now paying for her room and board, so guess he uses the ss for pocket money.

I imagine he still takes her as a deduction on his income taxes, too then, huh?

If, God forbid, Michael, his attorney and the judge finally get their way and murder Teri, I hope her family is able to file the biggest wrongful death suit in history. Praying for Teri and her family.

[bjs1779]

I often hear the name of the August Dr.Hammesfahr used in a kind of reverent tones.

And for good reason, he is a great neurologist.

Quackwatch is ran by a quack and has their ownQuackWatch-Accused-of-Racketeering.htmProblems.

As for Dr. Hammesfahr, one week after he testified for Terri Schiavo, the Florida Department of Health filed fraud charges against him. hmmmmm

Of course, Dr. Hammesfahr defended himself and was cleared of all charges HERE and HERE.

Since then he appears to have even gained more stature. You may read that HERE

[bjs1779]

Oh, I forgot to mention that Dr. Hammesfahr has a standing offer open to treat Terri Schiavo for free. What is your side afraid of?

[bjs1779]

Oh, I also forgot to comment on his website. It seems that he was the only host the bloggers linked to on 4 TV News clips on Terri Schiavo and a dollar to a donut he exceeded his bandwith allotment. He'll be back!

[Anita1]

Here is my research on Dr. Hammasfahr:

12th Annual World Congress on Anti-Aging Medicine
Las Vegas 2004 - Conference Program
December 2nd, 2004
http://www.worldhealth.net/event/LV2004-conf_program.php


They profiled him as -
William M. Hammesfahr, M.D. : Nobel Prize Nominee; Neurologist


The 4th International Symposium for the use of Hyperbaric Oxygenation in the CP and the Brain Child sponsored by the Ocean Hyperbaric Neurologic Center
Fort Lauderdale July 28-31st 2004
http://www.oceanhbo.com/client/4.html


WILLIAM M. HAMMESFAHR, M.D.
Brain Injury, Cerebral Palsy, and Autism: Using Medications to Improve Blood Flow to the Injury
USA


http://www.holisticmedicine.org/pdfs/newsltrsummer03.pdf

Florida The AHMA Chapter from West Central Florida

The first meeting was at the University of South Florida's College of Public Health. The first case report was on Parkinsonism,,,Discussion was initiated by William Hammesfahr, MD, a neurologist waho has been nominated for the Nobel Prize in his field.


I don't think all these organizations would stick their necks out for a "quack."

I'm sure that Pioneer Heart Surgeon Michael DeBakey, MD had his critics too!

[Anita1]

Why don't you go to the websites and see all the other doctors who are included before you judge - opps - I forgot - that would not suit you since you have your mind made up!



An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.

[bjs1779]

Apparently he doesn't like to associate himself with the numbskulls he proved wrong.

[Trinity_Tx]

Anita, you said, "Re: "There are serious questions about what happened to cause her to collapse as there was never discovered in tests the "chemical imbalance" that the news media always falsely reports.";

I told you that was not true and gave you a link to her medical records to show you why.

Now you give me quotes by Dr H, and even he says that there was a chemical imbalance.


I have indeed read and reread (among the other Dr reports, affs, depos, and transcripts) every word in Dr Hammesfahr's report - long and short versions, interview transcripts and his actual trial testimony.

I wont nitpick his Nobel prize nomination, but I can tell you that the reality of what that nomination means is not that impressive to me, or the court. Read the trial transcripts and the decisions.

Anyway, you quote him:

"In the Emergency Room, a possible diagnosis of heart attack was briefly entertained, but then dismissed after blood chemistries and serial EKG's - did Not show evidence of a heart attack."

Indeed he did say that, and he knows the difference between a "heart attack"(MI) and a "cardiac arrest".

Her doctors and medics saw her in cardiac arrest and diagnosed it as such, and made the completely appropriate diagnosis that it was caused by her "severe hypopotassemia". It's all on her chart at the link I gave you.

Cardiac Arrest is a problem with the way the heart *beats*. Too much potassium, and it will become sluggish. Too little causes the heart to beat way too fast - erratically - so that the oxygenated blood doesn't actually get pumped out. (Her potassium level, at a 2, was fatally low if not caught before the entire brain has died from lack of O2)

Heart attack (MI) *can* coincide with cardiac arrest, and to find out if that happened, you look for cardiac enzymes that would rise from the destruction of heart muscle an MI causes. You only see that in 50% of cardiac arrests. But you need to know so you can treat the damaged muscle.


"Similarly, a pulmonary or lung cause of the disorder was ruled out in the Emergency Room after normal blood gases and Chest X-Rays were obtained. The possibility of toxic shock syndrome was also entertained. The diagnosis of the cause of her condition was unknown."

Yes, they ruled these out - and they weren't necessary to explain her lack of O2 to the brain. Yes, "the diagnosis of the cause of her condition was unknown" in the ER.

But once they were finished with her medical history, the diagnosis was clear and is stated on her charts.

"Her admission laboratory studies showed low potassium level, markedly elevated glucose level,"

..and low calcium, and undernourishment, all consistent with her diagnosis and event.

(and contradicts your assertion that there was no chemical imbalance)

"and a normal toxic screen - Without evidence of diet pills or amphetamines."

And he knows that those aren't necessary. All it takes is too many or chronic use of laxatives, diuretics, emetics, or vomiting. It is what killed Karen Carpenter, because she wasn't found in time.


My sons need me now, so I'll leave the rest of your post to answer later, since it is irrelevant to the point.

Just consider that many of you are going by certain quotes from one doctor, hired by her parents, who only looked at her charts years later. (Like the other dr who appeared on Greta and got everyone in a tizzy)

I am going by what was said by an entire staff of physicians with no bias, and that is medically sound because it is so consistent.

And so no one mistakes me, I am in no way supporting her husband or what he wants to do. I think she should go to her parents. I just think we need to dispel rumors when they see them, for the sake of our own integrity.

[TheBrotherhood]

Amen.

[TheBrotherhood]

If you believe that a politician or a party could care about saving one life you've been misled all these years.

[bjs1779]

I did Dr. Hammesfahr was fined 3,000 dollars and placed on six months supervisory probation.

You didn't read them very good then. It said 2,000 dollars and placed on six months supervisory probation. However, that is what Dr. Hammesfahr was applealing.

The final ruling at the bottom Says:

"We reverse the final order of the Board discipling Dr. Hammesfahr for finacial explotation of a patient in violation of setion 438.331 (1)(n)

[TheBrotherhood]

"The problem is the Judiciary of Florida"

You nailed it.

And what comprises this judiciary? Ie, who are its members and why are they for murdering our Terri?

Would the judiciary of Florida of, say, 40 years ago have acted the same if that judiciary was comprised of a different demographic? The answer is YES!!

The central, critical issue is immigration and how it and its alien cultures are debasing and diluting are Western-European Christian culture. The worth of a nation is the worth of its demographics.

And, it's gonna get worse before it gets better unless we can arrest and reverse current demographic trends.

[floriduh voter]

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[TheBrotherhood]

"What kind of games is the man playing????? What the HECK is he doing??"

This judge (was it judge Greer?) is simply playing the save-my-soul game. I think it's too late for him to save his soul; he made a pact with the devil years ago and the devil won't let him out of this pact easily.