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Feeding Tube To Remain. Judge Issues Stay.[Terri Schiavo]

Posted on 02/22/2005 11:29:33 AM PST by ConservativeMan55

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; euthanasia; judicialtyranny; medicalmurder; mercykilling; prolife; terrischiavo; tube; uselesseater; vegetativestate
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To: MarMema

This kid went on to become like any normal kid. Normal! When they redid his scans at age 5, the doctors were STUNNED! For some reason, I'm thinking his name was Jacob, but not sure about that. (It was a biblical name - OT, but right now I don't remember the details.) The faith of the mother was incredible. I'll have to see if I can google it sometime. Maybe we can figure it out.


341 posted on 02/22/2005 11:41:38 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Heisenberg
hey...a prisoner's brain is sociopathic. His kidney is innocent

But his or her behavior was most likely filled with promiscuous sexual liasons, and high risk narcotic use.

342 posted on 02/22/2005 11:42:00 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

It happens. It happens the other way too, and very sadly at times.


343 posted on 02/22/2005 11:43:56 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: texastoo

Prisoners also get years of appeals. Before they are killed, most cases make it to the Supreme Court.

Terris crime? She lived too long. She's stubborn.


344 posted on 02/22/2005 11:45:57 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Heisenberg
They never transpant ANY organ without a complete viral and pathogen screen.

Ah, now I see you don't know much about immunology, after all.

346 posted on 02/22/2005 11:46:54 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Heisenberg

Then the Chinese are more humane than Michael, Felos and Greer.


347 posted on 02/22/2005 11:49:27 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Heisenberg

I am currently testing a liver recipient every two weeks for viruses, as part of a study he volunteered for.


348 posted on 02/22/2005 11:50:07 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Heisenberg

HEISENBERG,
What if doctors and nurses testified that YOU had no brain, and it wasn't true? How would you feel about that? To make my point, I copied your post and replaced TERRI with HEISENBERG. Here goes:

"Let me play devils advocate here for a moment. I'm sure everyone here believes that their position is rooted in unshakeable moral principles and that there is no other logical or moral explanation beyond their own. But allow me to ask a question. Radiologists and neurologists have repeatedly evaluated HEISENBERG and have testified under oath that HEISENBERG has no brain. In the words of three radiologists " a radiographic exmination of the patients' cranium reveals no extant cerebral cortex. Posterior and anterior views reveal 2,100 mililiters of cerebral spinal fluid."

Now...It is fairly axiomatic that in the absence of a brain there is no cognitve function. Now for the hard moral choices. If the remaining body minus the brain was harvested for organs at least five people would live. Two kidneys, two lobes of the liver and one heart. So...by keeping HEISENBERG " alive" ( I contend he died his brain died) you deny life to five other people. So in the hard calculus of sanctity, is it justifiable to allow five others to die to prove a point?

Not so easy now is it, HEISENBERG?


349 posted on 02/22/2005 11:51:49 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Heisenberg
maybe this will help

Checking for the presence of blood antibodies to these viral diseases is the conventional way of determining whether a person is a safe tissue or organ donor. But this method has drawbacks. For example, some infected donors may not be seroconverted -- even though they're infected, they don't yet show a full immune response to viral infection by producing antibodies.

350 posted on 02/22/2005 11:52:43 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Heisenberg
Immunological factors are matching issues not pathogen issues.

Try again. I'm not talking about tissue antigens. You probably have not read my post on seroconversion yet.

353 posted on 02/22/2005 11:57:14 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Heisenberg
Merely a time issue

Some people don't seroconvert for years.

354 posted on 02/22/2005 11:58:38 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Jrabbit

I think a suit could be made that starving her to death would be too much stress on the Mother and Father. Can any of you imagine the stress of knowing your child is starving daily.

The lawyers need to look into the pathology of starving and how the body organs react. It is my opinion that this will be painful. I don't know for sure as I have not looked into this aspect.


355 posted on 02/23/2005 12:02:18 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: All; MarMema

I posted this a few times, & my husband is helping me with the project:

I'm seeing videos of Terri on tv, & while they show that she is not brain dead, there are better videos. I'm going to e-mail some media outlets, and give them a link to a better video of Terri.

I hope some of you will join me in this effort and pick out your favorite video of Terri, and send a few media outlets the link.

My favorite video of Terri is the one where she laughs when her dad reminds her of when she used to tease her mother, and roll her eye (Terri had "lazy eye").

If anyone wants to see this video, provided by bjs1779, which only takes a minute, visit:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1345652/posts?page=28

Then go to Post #28 & click the link.

Keep in mind when Terri makes sounds, she is attempting to talk, but needs therapy in order to talk. Even without therapy, Terri can say a few words. Sadly, Michael won't allow her to have therapy.

LET ME TELL YOU THIS: There was a poster on another board, who actually started an anti-Terry thread, and after seeing this video admitted that it was compelling and that he never saw this video before.


356 posted on 02/23/2005 12:06:22 AM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: texastoo
It's dehydration, not starvation. And it is horrible without morphine.

A painless death

357 posted on 02/23/2005 12:11:45 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: texastoo
Murder in manassas, the starving of Hugh Finn

"It took Hugh nine days to die of dehydration. I met Joan Finn, his mother, outside the nursing home on October 7th. Obviously distraught she said, "Don't let anyone ever tell you this isn't a horrible way to die. No law should allow this!"

358 posted on 02/23/2005 12:15:48 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: b4its2late
It would be an interesting fictional movie plot for someone who had only a few months to live (due to cancer or something), take justice into their own hands and teach this judge something about justice...
359 posted on 02/23/2005 12:16:09 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Sun

That's a great idea Sun. I'll work on it in the morning.


360 posted on 02/23/2005 12:16:22 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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