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1 posted on 02/22/2005 7:38:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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A Muslim. What a surprise.


96 posted on 02/22/2005 8:34:40 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: SoFloFreeper

More background here:

http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/04-1258.pdf


99 posted on 02/22/2005 8:35:27 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: SoFloFreeper

They caught the guy? Well, more slit wrists over at DUh.


100 posted on 02/22/2005 8:36:50 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Important details here:

http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/04-1258.pdf


102 posted on 02/22/2005 8:37:43 AM PST by jimbo123
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"He was tortured," Nubani told the court. "He has the evidence on his back. He was whipped. He was handcuffed for days at a time."

So....why didn't conspire to murder a Saudi leader, then?

105 posted on 02/22/2005 8:39:36 AM PST by Ignatz ("Scribe of the Unwritten Law". ( Hey, someone's gotta NOT write this stuff down! ))
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More background here:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1090984588717


109 posted on 02/22/2005 8:43:40 AM PST by jimbo123
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He claimed that he was tortured while detained in Saudi Arabia since June of 2003 and offered through his lawyer to show the judge his scars.

Right out of the al-Qaida training manual.

110 posted on 02/22/2005 8:44:18 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: SoFloFreeper

More background here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A4967-2003Nov21?language=printer

The strongest clue about the reasons for his imprisonment came in July, from an FBI agent testifying in federal court in Alexandria in the case of a group of Northern Virginia men alleged to be part of a "jihad network." According to the agent's testimony, Abu Ali told his Saudi interrogators that he had joined an al Qaeda cell in Saudi Arabia and that he aspired to be a planner like Mohamed Atta, the ringleader of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers.


115 posted on 02/22/2005 8:45:32 AM PST by jimbo123
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And Sean Penn has already been accepted an offer to play the role of the potential assassin.


119 posted on 02/22/2005 8:47:09 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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124 posted on 02/22/2005 8:49:28 AM PST by jimbo123
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You shouldn't have done it Corin.


126 posted on 02/22/2005 8:50:30 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I'm not an Aggie, but I married one as fast as I could.)
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128 posted on 02/22/2005 8:50:51 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Travis McGee; Jeff Head; TexasCowboy

This is "one" that they caught.......


129 posted on 02/22/2005 8:51:59 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SoFloFreeper

More escapades from the "Religion of Love and Peace".


138 posted on 02/22/2005 8:56:31 AM PST by UCAL (My kids will register Republican or they pay for their own college tuition.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Get a rope.


157 posted on 02/22/2005 9:09:04 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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former high school valedictorian in Virginia was charged Tuesday with conspiring to assassinate President Bush and conspiracy to support the al-Qaida terrorist network. Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, 23, a U.S. citizen

If it worships Islam, it is a terrorist.

By definition.

160 posted on 02/22/2005 9:11:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")
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A muslim kill the president???? You don't say. Shocking.


161 posted on 02/22/2005 9:12:08 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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"He was tortured," Nubani told the court. "He has the evidence on his back. He was whipped. He was handcuffed for days at a time."

"When Nubani offered to show the judge his back, O'Grady said that Abu Ali might be able to enter that as evidence on Thursday at a detention hearing."

Oh, you mean those self-inficted, or purposely created by co-terrorists scars to offer as (phoney) evidence? And we should take pity on you for your suffering, right?

Ok...let's get a doctor to look at those scars. It will be easy to ascertain if they healed with the assistance of proper treatment (i.e. "clean") as would happen if they were "staged" and he was whipped just to give some authenticity to his supposed suffering claims.

Or, was he left without proper care while the wounds festered and healed improperly - as would happen if the whippings were truly done by ones who wanted to cause harm and left him to suffer with no treatment to the areas.

183 posted on 02/22/2005 9:26:19 AM PST by CitizenM ("...pacifism is one of the greatest allies an aggressor can have!" -Patrick Henry)
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How does this guy's (claimed) torture by the Saudis make him any less responsible?

I can think of a million excuses for a time when people are standing before a judge....

Let's think about standing before a grand jury to be indicted on charges of conspiring to kill the President. What are ya going to say?

I was raised in poverty!
My parents were drug abusers!
I have a drug addiction!
I was ridiculed by my peers all through high school!

..and the list goes on and on and on...in ad nauseum.

No....the sad fact is that this kid is a "Rod'er" (Religion of Death'er) and he thinks our beloved Commander in Chief is evil and needs to die.

I hate to break the news, but statistically, and historically, people who are taken into custody for the charges levied against him don't usually gain their freedom back any time soon.

BUT now this young man is firmly in the hand of his enemy! May God grant wisdom and dilligence to our U.S. Secret Service!

If what this kid says about the Saudis is true, then he knows if he had been charged similarly in Saudi Arabia, he would soon be dead. He "should" contrast this to the justice and mercy that he is receiving even now, here in this great nation of ours. But I doubt he will. I hope they roast his hatefull little carcass, but that's just me.
193 posted on 02/22/2005 9:32:20 AM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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I'm currently playing a C-span video link of this hearing, but I'm not having any luck finding a transcript:
Full Participant List for Post 9-11 “Citizen Hearing” on Status of Civil Rights & Liberties Chaired By Rep. John Conyers
Date Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2004




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
..: Muslim American Society :..
October 12, 2004 PRESS RELEASE
MEDIA ADVISORY

Full Participant List for Post 9-11 “Citizen Hearing” on Status of Civil Rights & Liberties Chaired By Rep. John
(Washington, DC) - Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) will hold a public “Citizen Hearing” on the status of Civil Rights and Liberties Post 9-11. The hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, October 13, from 1:00pm to 3:00pm in the Rayburn House Building, Room 2237.
The participants are as follows:
Mahdi Bray, Executive Director MAS Freedom Foundation
Kit Gage, Executive Director NCARL
Kate Martin, Director Center for National Security Studies
Hilary O. Shelton, Director of Washington Bureau NAACP
Laura Murphy, Executive Director of ACLU
Ron Daniel, Executive Director for the Center of Constitutional Rights
Reverend Walter Fauntroy, former member of congress
Sikh Media and Resource Taskforce
Jim Ferg-Cadia, Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund
Bilal Mahmoud, Victim and Vietnam Veteran
TASMEEN ABU ALI, sister of American political prisoner AHMED ABU ALI
Hadia Mubarak, President of Muslim Student Association-National
Reverend Walden Gaddy, Interfaith Alliance
Rabbi Arthur Waskow of the Shalom Center
Professor David Cole; Georgetown, University Law Professor
Dr. Esam Omeish, President of the Muslim American Society
The ADC.
The hearing will receive testimony from national civil rights organizations, legal scholars, activists, religious and lay leaders, as well as prominent citizens and victims, and family members who have suffered as a direct result of post 9-11 governmental policies. The hearing will focus on the erosion of civil rights and highlight positive solutions and activities: what could best be classified as “best practices”.
WHO: Post 9-11 Civil Rights Coalition
WHAT: Citizen Hearing on civil rights and liberties post 9-11
WHERE: Capitol Hill Rayburn Caucus Room # 2237
WHEN: Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 1:00 p.m. until 3:00 p.m.
CONTACT: Mahdi Bray (202) 421-3623 or (202) 496-1288
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*The Freedom Foundation is the public affairs arm of the Muslim American Society (MAS), a national grassroots religious, social, and educational organization. Learn more at www.masnet.org.
__________________________________________
MAS Freedom Foundation
1050 17th Street NW #600
Washington, DC 20036
Tel: (202) 496-1288
Fax: (202) 463-0686
URL: http://www.masnet.org/index_publicaffairs.asp
Email: freedom@masnet.org


199 posted on 02/22/2005 9:42:35 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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