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CAIR Condemns"24" - But it won't condemn Islamic Terrorists
Townhall.com ^ | Feb. 21,2005 | Joel Mowbray

Posted on 02/21/2005 6:57:48 PM PST by Zivasmate

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February 21, 2005

What has Fox’s hit TV show “24” done to prompt TV Guide to report “24 in Hot Water” and Entertainment Weekly to ask, “Has ‘24’ Gone Too Far?”?

Its bad guys are terrorists who are… Muslims. That’s it.

Few of us need reminding that we are not simply waging a war against terror, but against the radical Islam that animates the enemy. The enemy is not coincidentally Muslim, but they are the enemy because their radicalized version of Islam tells them to be. “24,” so far at least, understands that.

What makes “24” this season so special, though, is that it’s the first entertainment production in the post-9/11 era to accurately portray the enemy. The Monday night hit features the Araz family, Turkish Muslim immigrants who live in suburbia—and are a sleeper cell for an unnamed terrorist outfit.

In recent episodes, the teenage son starts developing a conscience, and his father senses something is amiss with his only child. So, the father has a member of his goon squad take away his son to have him murdered. (The plan failed.) He felt his son had become too Americanized in his years here, and no longer regarded him as his own flesh and blood.

Explaining to his wife how he could have ordered the murder of their son, he said, “We’re all expendable.” One of the other terrorist operatives from a previous episode also saw himself as expendable, driving head-on into an 18-wheeler when he believed he was being followed by police.

This, of course, is part of the Jihadist ideology, where little value is placed on individual life. And “24” deserves credit for getting it right.

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KEYWORDS: 24; cair; cairlies; foxtv; islam; mowbray; muslim; rop; television; terrorism; wot
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To: OXENinFLA

For the "24" ping list...


41 posted on 02/21/2005 10:09:19 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: gg188

Don't forget g.) Ken Starr.


42 posted on 02/21/2005 10:10:38 PM PST by Checkers
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Always here, AAC.

Full mags and one in the snout.

43 posted on 02/21/2005 10:22:24 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

AAC--thanks for the ping.


44 posted on 02/22/2005 4:12:23 AM PST by swordfish71 (This area for rent)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; jan in Colorado
Thanks for the pings AAC.

This reminds me of an Imam here on FReep who refused to answer certain questions.

Sometimes, when you're listening to CAIR and other so called Islamic mouthpieces, it's more interesting to note what they will not say, or condemn.
45 posted on 02/22/2005 6:02:19 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Zivasmate

Muslims are terrorists...period. There should be more shows that highlight this fact. I am so tired of those in this country and abroad who show these animals deference by trying to portray them as peaceful human beings. They murder, rape, and kill women, chop innocent people's heads off, yet we are supposed to believe that there is anything peaceful about them?


46 posted on 02/22/2005 6:52:58 AM PST by FairfaxVA (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0. Zero rows returned!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; ariamne; Former Dodger; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; broadsword; ...
Excerpt from Dhimmiwatch (more Islamic lies from CAIR):

And from the Ironic Juxtaposition Department:

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) took Fox to task about the "24" episode in the publication Broadcasting and Cable.

Rabiah Ahmed, spokeswoman for CAIR, said that the show is "taking everyday American Muslim families and making them suspects ... it's very dangerous and very disturbing."...

Abdullah said he didn't complain to the station, and he isn't surprised to know that other Muslims did not.

"When you complain, it makes you look small," he said. "It naturally bothers us of course, but we don't complain to people about it -- we complain to God."

The reporter doesn't seem to have asked Abdullah whether he thinks CAIR looks small for complaining about "24."

"It doesn't make sense," he said. "Muslims are not like this, and Islam is an excellent religion -- but if a lie is told often enough people begin to think it's the truth."

Ain't it the truth! In fact, here comes a whopper now:

Muslims do not believe in converting people to their religion by force. In fact, the Qu'ran (or Koran) accepts religious pluralism and sees strength in diversity.

Note the language: the "Qu'ran" (sic) accepts "pluralism" and "diversity." Whoever it was at the mosque who told this to Simmons has mastered the art of pushing today's most effective cultural hot buttons. Muslims believe in diversity, you see. Not like those nasty Christians.


47 posted on 02/22/2005 7:03:28 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: FairfaxVA


Muslims are terrorists...period. There should be more shows that highlight this fact. I am so tired of those in this country and abroad who show these animals deference by trying to portray them as peaceful human beings. They murder, rape, and kill women, chop innocent people's heads off, yet we are supposed to believe that there is anything peaceful about them?




Ronald Reagan was said to have loved commerce more than he loathed Communism.



Two points need to made:

1) George Bush loathes making hateful statements about Islam and terrorists more than he loves to tell the truth about most things.

2) Those who dislike Bush dislike him more than they dislike Islam and terrorists.

Hence the "deference" shown to the P.R.O.P.


48 posted on 02/22/2005 7:11:35 AM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: Zivasmate
The Washington Post in November 2001 asked a CAIR spokesman to condemn Hamas or Islamic Jihad.  He refused, explaining, “It’s not our job to go around denouncing.”  Asked a similar question about Hamas and Hezbollah by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in February 2002, CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper called such queries a “game” and added, “We’re not in the business of condemning.”

However, they are in the business of condemning any and every attempt to accurately portray the actions and motivations of people who carry out unspeakable violence in the name of their religion.

Jihadists? Can't condemn
Hollywood producers, columnists, Ashcroft (who has foiled countless sleeper cells)? Condemnation galore.

49 posted on 02/22/2005 7:27:50 AM PST by seamus
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To: seamus

You're missing one important point. Let's even suppose they did condemn these things. What would it all mean? Arafat "condemned" all violence against civilians in the Middle East, and yet he was behind much of that violence. Condemning means very little, except to give the MSM reason to write that these perveyors of evil aren't so bad, after all.

What we want to see is American-Muslim groups actively do something, like halting the collecting of funds for violent purposes or reporting their fellow collaborators to the US authorities. Then I'll become convinced that their "condemnations" have any meaning behind them.


50 posted on 02/22/2005 7:41:12 AM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: USF

This guy is either an idiot or an outright Marxist.


51 posted on 02/22/2005 3:13:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Please add me to your ping list for PROP and thanks.


52 posted on 02/25/2005 6:15:02 AM PST by sarasota
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To: nutmeg; OXENinFLA

If there's a 24 ping list, I want to be on it and thanks.


53 posted on 02/25/2005 6:16:54 AM PST by sarasota
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To: jocon307
"Kudos to Fox for not casting these terrorists as some Caucasian misfits."

There's plenty of time for "24" to reveal that Caucasians are behind this plot too. Prepare for a major disappointment. You can already see the shadowy outlines of the "Military-Industrial complex" pulling strings behind the scenes. If they betray the truth I will be finished with "24" for good.

54 posted on 02/25/2005 6:18:59 AM PST by montag813
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To: Paul Atreides

True Lies with Ahnold kicked up a big fuss from muslim groups when it came out in 1994.


55 posted on 02/25/2005 6:39:32 AM PST by xp38
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To: Zivasmate
CAIR wholeheartedly supports terrorists, and prays to Allah that these jihadists will recieve their reward!

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Laz 'al-Mataz.

56 posted on 02/25/2005 6:41:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: sarasota

OXENinFLA has the 24 ping list. :o)


57 posted on 02/25/2005 8:36:20 AM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks.


58 posted on 02/25/2005 8:40:34 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Zivasmate

HOWEVER, the last episode had Americans has part of the plot. I knew it was coming, I just wondered how long before they made the White Guys the real enemy. I do enjoy the show, but it really is just so freakin preposterous.


59 posted on 02/25/2005 8:45:29 AM PST by Hildy
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