Posted on 02/21/2005 2:09:20 PM PST by Bob J
Muslim-bashing. That's the accusation many of my fellow Muslims now hurl at the various news outlets for their news stories about a Freedom House investigation that found extremist Islamic literature in some leading American mosques. This name-calling is unfortunate.
Since 1980, the Muslim world has experienced an enormous growth of religious fanaticism and extremism the likes of which Islam has not experienced in its 1,400 years. This movement continues to grow because of the spread of Wahhabi Islam; a sect that used to number no more than one percent of all Muslims, but because of money and technology, has spread to more areas around the world.
Extremism is also growing because of an ideology called political Islam. The basis of political Islam is the rejection of secularism and the belief that the mosque and the state should be completely intertwined. Unfortunately, history has shown that when politics and religion are completely intertwined, disaster results.
Most importantly, extremism in the Muslim world continues to grow because most Muslims are unwilling to admit that we have a problem with extremism and support for terrorism. The response by Muslims to the Freedom House report is not the first time that the Muslim community resorted to denial and accusations of Muslim-bashing when presented with evidence of Muslim culpability.
After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9/11 terrorist acts. After 9/11, many Muslims, including religious leaders and "intellectuals," blamed 9/11 on a Jewish conspiracy, and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4,000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on that day.
Since 9/11, the world has watched in horror as hundreds of schoolchildren were murdered in Russia by Chechen Muslim terrorists. Scores of civilians were murdered by Islamic terrorists in Spanish train bombings. Many others have been murdered in suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places, human beings have been beheaded, two Russian passenger planes were blown out of the sky, and many, many atrocities that are too long to mention. All carried out by Muslims.
With all the evidence that Islam is facing a crisis, one wonders what it will take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements. What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis potentially more deadly than the AIDS epidemic? What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large, evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a death cult?
Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming an imaginary Jewish conspiracy and entities like The Dallas Morning News for all our problems? The blaming of all Muslim problems on others is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society. And it must stop.
Muslims must wake up, look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars, and not behind a pulpit.
Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community, then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims. We should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists. And we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports.
Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against extremism and terror, we need to take the lead in this war.
For more information, visit or website at www.freemuslims.org
Those are your words, not mine. I explicitly said the Bible was NOT irrelevant.
And I am a devout Zionist and contribute to many Zionist causes. I have an abiding love for the Jews, whom I consider God's Chosen. And that is why, when I see adherents of a pagan cult murdering buses full of Jewish babies, I am distressed to know that Americans go in the tank for alleged "moderate" Muslims.
If your comments on this thread are an indicator of your attitude, I'm glad the military decided it didn't need your 'help'. That kill em all viewpoint only makes the soldiers in Iraq's job harder.
Get a grip.
I hate those murdering ba**ards just as much as you....but I do have friends that are Muslim and just don't think that way......they really don't and say that part of the Koran does not apply to these modern day........I would think that if they think this, then there must be alot more...
I am not advocating a global war with 1 billion people, so my military service is not an issue. I respect and appreciate your own service in uniform, however, as you have shown, no matter what your intentions are, you will not be there taking the RPG's in your face on the front line. I did not infer cowardice (nice attempt at diversion though) merely pointed out that it is easier to be an advocate of a global war when one is not actually going to be doing any of the fighting. I'd be interested in seeing a poll from our men and women in arms as to how they feel about launching a worldwide military effort against all muslims.
You sound just like the DU freaks: "If you're for the war, why don't you enlist?"
And you didn't "infer" cowardice; you implied it.
You may think they are your friends...but you deceive yourself if you believe it.
All over the world, there is muslim money being used to subvert, deceive, undermine and propagandize their way into the mainstream. Don't fall for it. Be vigilant.
http://Exmuslim.com
http://amightywind.com/islam/muslimconverts.htm
IMO you are paranoid about this whole issue....I would love to hear any of the experts or politicians in our party expound the same idea......I really would....if they do, then I'll listen........
Allow your opinions to stand or fall on their own. Playing the vet card and claiming you've been accused of cowardice is chickenshit.
Just MHO.
And I think it's chicken-**** to go in the tank for a bunch of pagans you consider "moderate" and "courageous."
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I hope that there are many more brave Americans who are also Moslem out there, Bob.
Good info here
Nowhere in the Old Testament (Tanach) are there commandments to model your life after any of the great Jews mentioned there. And there are quite a few. Some were warriors.
In contrast, Islam rises and falls on just one man named Muhammad. And Muslims are commanded many times in Koran and Hadith to emulate his life. To copy what Islam calls Muhammad's example. Hadith and Koran are chock full of Muhammad's examples. And many of them from the second half of Muhammad's life are murderous and are about killing non Muslims. How the heck do you think he spread Islam? By the sword! There is nothing in Judaism like this.
Best I can say about Islam is many Muslims ignore the murderous examples in Muhammad's life. But many take them to heart and make Jihad
Divide and conquer may be more productive and less costly than throwing our soldiers in the boiler.
Now that I have read the whole thread, I don't feel all that well about you and the rest of your 'moderate' co-religionists.
This 'religion' gives me the creeps.
well yes I wasn't comparing the bible per se to the Koran but simply trying to respond to Gurn's inane examples....once anyone starts generalizing to an entire population from a small sample......well, let's just say I hope I never become that paranoid.......yeah, let's tackle the ones that take these things to heart but anyone who thinks there are absolutely no moderate Muslims lives in a world of hate and deception
Easier said than done. Muslims are a contentious lot, entranced by terror, disruption, anarchy, chaos, assassinations and explosions.
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