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Philly Judge Applauded for Ruling in Favor of Christian Protestors
AgapePress ^ | February 18, 2005 | Jody Brown

Posted on 02/20/2005 9:25:57 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K

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Instead of making that statement, Gramley suggests Dembe should have mentioned the law enforcement officials whose actions during the arrests were "more reminiscent of a police state."

Exactly! As you can see in the video

the fat police captian that was in charge at the event had a red arm band on. How appropriate.

1 posted on 02/20/2005 9:25:59 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Where Dembe's ruling were correct, her comparison of Christians rights to free speech to the KKK's an Nazi's was appalling.


2 posted on 02/20/2005 9:28:37 AM PST by deepFR
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U.S. attorneys complicit in arrest of Christians?

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Homosexual attorneys from the U.S. Justice Department Civil Rights Division not only attended a large homosexual event in Philadelphia last year, but they advised police on the scene who arrested 11 Christian protesters, says a source within the agency.

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3 posted on 02/20/2005 9:31:22 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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4 posted on 02/20/2005 9:32:29 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Need Federal Civil Rights charges against the Philadelphia officials who persecuted them ...


5 posted on 02/20/2005 9:37:30 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: deepFR

I thought hate crime laws were about violence against specific groups of people, not speech. Beating up or murdering someone because he is gay is a hate crime. Reading the Bible to him is not.


6 posted on 02/20/2005 9:38:17 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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The way things are going, it will be unless Christians go more on offense and less on defense.


7 posted on 02/20/2005 9:43:19 AM PST by deepFR
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No. If you publically call someone a "gay bastard" you can be charged with a "hate crime" as well.
8 posted on 02/20/2005 9:44:11 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Time to file the lawsuits against the City and cash in big.


9 posted on 02/20/2005 9:47:27 AM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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UNBELIEVEABLE!

These men and women of Repent America are better people than I. I was just hoping someone with a softball bat would have came through there and cracked some heads. That temporary satisfaction would have been detrimental, sure. But how could something like this happen in broad daylight in America?


10 posted on 02/20/2005 9:51:31 AM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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To: Goodgirlinred

Beating up and murdering someone is murder. Hate crime is newspeak for thought control.


11 posted on 02/20/2005 9:51:40 AM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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But isn't it a hate crime when there is no motive other than a person's race, religion, or sexual orientation, occupation, etc.?
12 posted on 02/20/2005 10:01:15 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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That is just words. That is not a crime. I am talking about violence.


13 posted on 02/20/2005 10:02:24 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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I'm not worried about "cashing in". I hope to see the people responsible held accountable. They've abused their power and should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.
14 posted on 02/20/2005 10:02:50 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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her comparison of Christians rights to free speech to the KKK's an Nazi's was appalling

She was pointing to the extremes that we have, and that those Christians were well within them. It wasn't a "comparison."

15 posted on 02/20/2005 10:04:55 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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Perhaps, but imagine if someone made the same contrast with homosexual activist groups; do you really believe that they would not have been all over it?


16 posted on 02/20/2005 10:07:46 AM PST by deepFR
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Well, you are right on that score. My daughter teaches at a Christian school. She went to a teachers' conference recently. One speaker was a professor from Colorado. He is a Christian. He told them about a young professor who did not have tenure. He had invited a religious speaker in to speak to his class. Some students complained. He was fired. The professor speaking at the conference said he did the same thing. He was tenured. There were complaints, but he had tenure and they could not fire him. He said that the sad thing was that no one spoke up for him or the young professor who was fired. He said there were many Christians there, but no one spoke up for them. Yet hundreds speak up for Ward Churchill. He has so many followers. This professor said that if Christians, who have been taught that the meek will inherit the earth, do not begin to speak up, they will lose their freedom of religion and speech.


17 posted on 02/20/2005 10:08:49 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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Perhaps, but imagine if someone made the same contrast with homosexual activist groups; do you really believe that they would not have been all over it?

They might have cried, too. Maybe you could have shared a box of tissues.

18 posted on 02/20/2005 10:10:01 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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I understand what you are talking about. For publicly calling someone a "gay bastard' for instance, in a situation where there was NO VIOLANCE, you can be charged with the "CRIME" of ETHNIC INTIMIDATION.

IT IS ONE REASON WHY SUCH LAWS ARE SO BAD.

19 posted on 02/20/2005 10:14:21 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: xm177e2

Both entitled to our opinions, but there is no debating that the judge did not compare their right to free speech with civil rights activists et al, she compared their rights with 2 of the vilest groups imaginable whose veiws are tolerated and percieved to be out of the mainstream. I find it interesting that where no personal negative statements were directed at you, you find it necessarry to respond with snide and sarcastic remarks?


20 posted on 02/20/2005 10:18:37 AM PST by deepFR
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