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Breakfast in a blue state
Jerusalem Post ^ | 2-19-05 | EMANUELE OTTOLENGHI

Posted on 02/20/2005 6:11:05 AM PST by SJackson

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To: MWS
The part that really cracks me up is that they can, in one breath, say that people like us see everything in black and white and, in the next, say that is bad. They speak in SUCH terms of black and white that, examining their views, you'd never suspect that they believe anything is "shades of grey". In their minds, Bush is absolutely bad. People who vote for Bush are absolutely bad. People who take their religion seriously are absolutely bad. War in Iraq is absolutely bad. Extreme enviromentalist measures are absolutely good. So-called "Seperation of Church and State" is absolutely good.

Worth repeating, excellent observations.

41 posted on 02/20/2005 9:08:10 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: guitarist

Ooops! My mistake. In that case, I hope HE doesn't wear a Kerry shirt on his next trip to NYC...


42 posted on 02/20/2005 9:20:23 AM PST by livius
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To: Kozak
Such incisive debating technique.

Yes, and then they stand and stare at you as if they have just said something incredibly witty and devastating, and all of their friends at the table titter in apreciation. I live in Florida, not in NYC, and this happened to me in my own house because I happen to know a set of academics. To tell the truth, I was so stunned that people would be so rude that I didn't know what to say. Finally, I said that I thought they were rude and we should change the subject (which wasn't Bush, anyway - I can't remember how it came up).

A few days later, one of them sent an e-mail to my sister saying that she couldn't believe that my sister liked Bush, because she was "so intelligent." This was the tipping point; we wrote back and said that they were incredibly rude, and we couldn't believe they liked Kerry, because they were "so intelligent." All of them apologized, and we have been good friends ever since.

I honestly think these people live in such a bubble they don't realize how rude and aggressive they are, because everybody they know thinks exactly as they do, and says exactly the same horrible things they say. But sometimes if you call them on it, they get a grip and realize that they've gone over the line. That is, if they are of good will, but there are many who are not.

43 posted on 02/20/2005 9:27:14 AM PST by livius
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To: skimask
I'll never understand what makes them (liberals) think they are so much smarter than everyone else....

It's a process.

I WAS a liberal, and the process involves:

1-Defacto renunciation of one's American citizenship, becoming a "citizen of the world". Consequence: one is not only freed but prone to adopt several points of view at once.

2-Psychologically "connecting" to the liberal-left commune renders tremendous psychological rewards, this "warm fuzzy" is extremely intoxicating, your adopted ideology is constantly reinforced, eventually you can accept no other explanation than that you must be brilliant. Strength in numbers eventually obliterates one's individualism, members are not only soon unable to think for themselves, loss of membership is the penalty for doing so.

3-Narcisism, and the complete inability to see a particular point of view results in behavior steeped in delusion and characterized by constant projection. Note that according to liberals it's we conservatives who don't do "nuance", when it's actually our accusers who see things in strict black and white. We must be dumb or evil, to the narcissist, there can be no other explanation for our opposition to their beliefs.

44 posted on 02/20/2005 9:37:17 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Katya
I have a co-worker who is an elitist snob. She has a friend who is a German countess so the German friend contends. She told me she had asked her German countess what Germans thought of America prior to the re-election of George Bush. Her response in an alarmed voice was that the Germans hate us. I told my co-worker aka elitist snob: "What would you expect after kicking German asses twice in WWWI and WWWII". "Do you honestly think true Americans care what Germany thinks of us"? With that I left her office with her mouth wide open.

Sometimes talking to a liberal is liking shooting fish in a barrel.

45 posted on 02/20/2005 9:47:52 AM PST by Two-Bits (ABORTION - Never A CHOICE but A MALE'S FREE PASS from RESPONSIBILITY & CUPABILITY!)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

My humble suggestion to Emanuele is to eat like a pig. Then pretend to go the bathroom and duck out the back door; leaving Ms. Latte with the bill:):)


46 posted on 02/20/2005 9:47:53 AM PST by BobS
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To: livius
That is, if they are of good will, but there are many who are not.

People that rude are NOT of good will.

I'll go beyond that. I have changed my attitude toward "friends" who would install communism in my country...friends who would put traitors in office...friends who undermine Americans fighting for their lives (and our security) overseas...

They are not my friends. I have made that kind of politics "personal" and do not associate with such anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-freedom, pro-terrorist and idotic trash poorly impersonating intelligent human beings.

If they want a complete division of this country to separate themselves from us, I say it cannot happen soon enough for me.

I am sick to death of them.

47 posted on 02/20/2005 9:48:53 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I'll go beyond that. I have changed my attitude toward "friends" who would install communism in my country...friends who would put traitors in office...friends who undermine Americans fighting for their lives (and our security) overseas...

They are not my friends. I have made that kind of politics "personal" and do not associate with such anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-freedom, pro-terrorist and idotic trash poorly impersonating intelligent human beings.

This is precisely how I see it. Those who would see this country laid low in order to satisfy their own deep-driven self-hatred are unfit to live in this country. They are, in fact, unfit to live - period. If that seems extreme, then consider the consequences once such as these achieve the kind of absolute power that they crave. History teaches us some dark and brutal lessons in that regard, should we chose to see them.

They don't want a division of the country, BTW. What they want is for all of us who oppose their sick utopian fantasies of death, power and dominion over every aspect of human thought and endeavor to die. Again, history is my witness to that fact.

It's long past time that we started treating these monsters as the enemies of human freedom and didnity that they really are.

48 posted on 02/20/2005 10:57:37 AM PST by Noumenon (The Left's dedication to the destruction of a free society makes them unfit to live in that society.)
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To: reg45
My favorite nuclear response to blue-staters is "Bush is OK, but I prefer Alan Keyes.".


My choice exactly. Next time one of them tells you they support the troops but not the war, tell them that is nonsense. If they don't support the mission they cannot support the troops. That usually sends them into orbit.
49 posted on 02/20/2005 5:49:38 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: SJackson

bttt


50 posted on 02/20/2005 10:35:54 PM PST by lainde ( ...we are not European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: SJackson
THIS is the number one reason John Kerry lost.

The leaders of the left think they are oh so smart, but they are a bunch of ignorant fools who don't understand the real world.

They are arrogant, and have nothing to be arrogant about.

51 posted on 02/20/2005 10:43:22 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("There out ta get me! They won't catch me! I'm #@^#@# innocent! They won't break me" - Guns N Roses)
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To: livius
"Bush is stupid. And whoever supports Bush is stupid."

I inevitably get the dumbfound, incredulous wail: "But, but... You're so SMART?! Then they narrow their eyes, searching for evidence of my clandestine psychotic break...

52 posted on 02/20/2005 10:46:23 PM PST by lainde ( ...We are NOT European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: Noumenon
We've spoken of this, you and I. There are family members with whom we no longer speak because we've realized that deep down inside whether they admit it or not, they hate us.

They hate the values we hold. They hate the way we think. They hate the way we have chosen to live our lives and raise our children.

The last time one of my younger brothers and I really talked about politics I came within an inch of removing his head from his shoulders when he called my service in the Marine Corps 'bulls***'.

He and I rarely speak at all anymore, even when we're in the same room at a family gathering.

We just figure that we'll do them one last favor and remove ourselves from their tiny, warped, frustrated, pointless little lives to the extent that it's possible.

I don't know who said that 'It's good to be hated by the right people', but I have to really, really try not to hate them right back. It's not that they're not deserving of it, oh they are alright.

I just figure that hatred is such a dangerous emotion that I can't really let it out of its box. Do you know what I mean? If I really just let it flow, I'm honestly afraid of what might happen.

As far as this article goes, anyone who really said to me 'anyone who supports Bush is stupid' would draw such a harsh laugh of derision from me that they would be stunned. I figure the best way to mock one of these overeducated, self important, self indulgent pinheads would be to laugh right in their face. I mean a good, long, hearty guffaw which would draw attention from every other diner in the joint.

Then I'd love to drop a mirror on the table if front of 'em as I dropped enough to cover my check and walked out.

Take care.

Check six.

L

53 posted on 02/20/2005 10:56:27 PM PST by Lurker ("We're all sinners, but jerks revel in their sins. " P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: joylyn
Living and working in the middle of the liberal paradise - Seattle - for the last 12 years has pretty much convinced me that being a liberal means literally hating anything you disagree with.

Certainly, there are haters on the right but, my God, I would never have believed it had you told me what living here would be like.

Right after the election some compassionate leftist filed a human resources complaint against a co-worker of mine for - I sh!t you not - "Voting for Bush".....and I don't work at McDonalds....I'm talking a multi-million dollar, professional services company in the middle of the city.

 If you say something they don't like, the lefties up here will sometimes flat-out yell at you.  It's pretty bizarre.

I stopped talking politics some time ago.

54 posted on 02/20/2005 11:02:52 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: SJackson

Where's his eye protection?


55 posted on 02/20/2005 11:10:08 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("There out ta get me! They won't catch me! I'm #@^#@# innocent! They won't break me" - Guns N Roses)
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