New York: Blue and Getting Bluer

NY Times ^ | February 20, 2005 | SAM ROBERTS

[neverdem]

[Congressman Billybob]

The people hired by the New York Times are too smart to be this dumb, so the fundamental error must be deliberate, not accidental. I've followed the Republican/Democrat split in state legislators for 30 years. It is only in recent years that the Republicans have drawn even, or taken a slight lead, in those races.

However, to suggest that indicates a "tie" between the two "major" parties is a lie. It ignores the fact that Southern Democrats are mostly conservatives who vote Republican for statewide and national offices.

This is a deliberately dishonest article, intended to give false hope to the Blue State people who are the (declining) subscribers for the Times.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, Confessions of a "Salivating Moron"

[muawiyah]

All of which proves why AlQaida thought so highly of New York as a target for terror.

[SteveMcKing]

I've often wondered why red staters are willing to die for the freedom of the blue states that give nothing but decadence and sloth to this country. The best answer I have is that many red daughters move to the city when they're young. If 1 or 2 of them are saved from nuclear holocaust, then maybe it's worth it.

Or maybe not.

[JesseJane]

By carrying his district in the Westchester suburbs of New York City - by all of 18 votes - Mr. Spano, now known as Landslide Nick [snip]

LANDSLIDE NICK!! I love that name.. 18 votes, and honey, it's a Landslide!!

Cute!

[OldFriend]

The dems are better at stealing local elections. Less scrutiny, more stealing.

Look at the big picture......

[Darkwolf377]

When the dems have to resort to number-crunching like this you know they're desperate. I haven't followed this story especially closely, but it seems to me it's a matter of following the longterm trends--ten year snapshots are probably more valuable then this election-by-election method, and then compare that decade-by-decade trend.

I'm not saying this is the most accurate way, but it seems more sensical than this "WOOHOO! We're neck and neck in this election, we're almost in the lead!" weirdness.

[The Mayor]

I'll be back..

[The Mayor]

I was on the front page..

Rest of the article here

[cyborg]

bttt

[longtermmemmory]

The NYT is taking a page straight from electioneering class. Find a trend, ANY trend and emphasise it.

This is actually much like kerry saying if 200,000 more ohio voters voted he would have won.

The only lesson here is that the democrats did not expect so many republicans to turn out or they would have fixed more votes. (remember Democrats PAID for their volunteers)

[The Mayor]

We are coming !

[cyborg]

Woo hoo! Help is on the way ;-)

[NYTexan]

Ya got 'em lookin' over their shoulders!

[neverdem]

Congratulations on the front page coverage, Mayor.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list. Apologies for any double pings.

[LauraleeBraswell]

on please

[CLS]

Figures lie and liars figure!

What these people FAIL to note is ...
at the LOCAL level, a democrat is still a democrat and a republican is still republican.

At the NATIONAL level, a democrat is a communist and the republicans are mostly liberal democrats.

Where are the REAL republicans at the national level? Mostly forced out of office by the leftist in charge of the rnc. Ask a couple of Southern senators/representatives about true republicans being shafterd by their (??) party.

[neverdem]

However, to suggest that indicates a "tie" between the two "major" parties is a lie. It ignores the fact that Southern Democrats are mostly conservatives who vote Republican for statewide and national offices.

I don't think it's necessarily a lie. Because of gerrymandering and the prospects for jobs, a lot of people are moving. Red states are becoming more red. Blue states are becoming more blue. It's only recently that NY has this 5 to 3 ratio in favor of the dems, IIRC. Both Schumer and then Hillary won by at least 11 percent margins when they were first elected.

NY, especially NYC, picked up many new residents, not counting those who can't vote legally. Upstate NY lost loads of folks who are unlikely to return. Liberals are flocking to cities. Conservatives are looking to greener pastures. If I wasn't a native of NYC with family and friends still here, I would have left a long time ago.

[SpyGuy]

Where are the REAL republicans at the national level?

Good question!

Ask a couple of Southern senators/representatives about true republicans being shafterd by their (??) party.

The same can be said of the California GOP.

[Clemenza]

The state has had a Republican governor for all but 24 of the last 60 years, including George E. Pataki's three terms so far.

Nelson Rockefeller, Malcolm Wilson, and George Elmer would be considered Democrats anywhere else.

New York's population growth consists entirely of immigrants, who have no problem with a tiny $500,000+ home as they stuff two families in, and the DINKs who, of course, don't reproduce.