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A genius explains - [an autistic savant describes how he thinks]
Guardian (U.K.) ^ | February 12, 2005 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 02/19/2005 6:45:18 PM PST by snarks_when_bored

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To: Pride in the USA

Here's one you might find enjoy. Remember the kid I met in the sandwich shop this past summer? He had a photographic memory and did complex math calculations in his head. He described how he saw words and numbers as colors and unfolding shapes. Interesting.


41 posted on 02/19/2005 7:42:02 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Earthdweller

34... uh-oh...


42 posted on 02/19/2005 7:45:39 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: snarks_when_bored

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43 posted on 02/19/2005 7:45:47 PM PST by monkey
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To: NonLinear
Me too. It sure "looked prime"!

Yeah. I can just look at a number, and I have a pretty good idea if it might be a prime (example: 37 yes, 42 no). Does that mean I have savant powers?

44 posted on 02/19/2005 7:49:04 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Fascinating.


45 posted on 02/19/2005 7:53:29 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Teacher317

Don't feel bad..I got a 44. EEEEEEK.


46 posted on 02/19/2005 7:54:11 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: PatrickHenry

You too!?


47 posted on 02/19/2005 7:54:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: xm177e2

You cheated..:)


48 posted on 02/19/2005 7:55:24 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Teacher317

I only ended up with 15?


49 posted on 02/19/2005 7:56:24 PM PST by united1000
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To: Earthdweller
You cheated..:)

No, I meant there was the strong possibility of unconscious bias.

Whenever I wasn't sure which one to put down, I had to stop and think about it. But while I was thinking about it, I knew in the back of my mind which option I chose would make me "more" autistic.

I tried to be fair and honest.

50 posted on 02/19/2005 7:58:27 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: cripplecreek
I know a guy who has a truely photographic memory.

I have a pornographic memory.

51 posted on 02/19/2005 8:01:36 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: longshadow; Earthdweller
An insightful question: how many of Hilbert's 23 problems were solved by savants?

I think this goes to the heart of the issue of whether these people have exceptional mathematical talent, or are simply really good arithmetic calculation and memorization.

Your guess is probably "zero" and I agree. It's true that Yuri Matiyasevich was a teenager when he proved that there's no universal algorithm for solving Diophantine equations (Problem 10), so one might think that perhaps he was a savant. But we have to distinguish between savants and prodigies. Plenty of great mathematicians showed their abilities at a very early age, but there's no evidence that any of them were autistic savants (although some might have had Asperger's Syndrome—see Earthdweller's post #25 on this thread).

Links for Hilbert's problems:

Mathematical Problems, a translation into English of Hilbert's lecture delivered before the International Congress of Mathematicians at Paris in 1900.

Hilbert's Problems, a status report.

52 posted on 02/19/2005 8:02:19 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: xm177e2

I know. The first time I took it I tried to answer with the "correct" response also and got a 20. See how we smart people are? I know a lot of people super intelligent people that get by like that. Tee Hee.


53 posted on 02/19/2005 8:02:50 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: cyborg

Ping


Fascinating article. For some reason I think it might interest you.


54 posted on 02/19/2005 8:07:28 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

thanks for the ping


55 posted on 02/19/2005 8:09:04 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Earthdweller

DANG!!!

I got a 34!!!!


56 posted on 02/19/2005 8:12:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: xm177e2
This might help. Take it from the perspective that you had as a child or teenager..I think that may make it more accurate. Over the years people with Aperger's learn skills to overcome some of the symptoms. IMHO.
57 posted on 02/19/2005 8:13:28 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Teacher317

Hey!!

Me too!


Somebody else try this thing!!!!!


58 posted on 02/19/2005 8:15:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Bahhahah. Guess we all need to get together for a group support meeting. :)~


59 posted on 02/19/2005 8:16:11 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: snarks_when_bored
The word "ema", for instance, translates as "mother"

Just as it does in Hebrew.

It would be interesting to do a study on children who are brought up to be multi-lingual. How do they know when to switch from one language to another, or is it all one language to them?

My grandchildren are being raised multi-lingual: English, Hebrew and Russian.

60 posted on 02/19/2005 8:17:19 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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