Posted on 02/19/2005 6:07:18 PM PST by Starve The Beast
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May the reformation begin!
So, the Ohio schoolkids are smarter than Barbara Boxer?
Sounds good to me as long as it exempts religious institutions who I believe have a right to fire instructors who change their beliefs after being hired.
My shoe is smarter than Barbara Boxer.
Diva's Husband
Perhaps not "smarter" than Barbara Boxer, but certainly with more common sense. But Boxer, like most liberals, is "common sense challenged."
I'd rather not have laws enacted on this issue. Far better to let the free market work. Provide a forum -- the internet is perfect for this -- where students or others with firsthand experience can point fingers and name names. Parents of students and alumnists ultimately hold all the cards. When the money stops flowing in, things will change in a hurry. U of CO is learning this lesson the hard way.
"David Horowitz daily walks into the nastiest liberal lion's den in this country, the American Academy. That guy needs a Presidential Medal of Freedom more than anyone else I can think of."
David Horowitz is one of my few mortal heros, and one of America's truly brave-citizen heros.
Good point, but I can't help thinking that even under those circumstances, a professor who still taught the material in a competent, appropriate manner would still be OK. After all, you can believe whatever you want to... you just shouldn't be allowed to shove it down your students' throats.
Academic Freedom is only for liberal professors who hate America. Students who think they are full of crap need to be jailed and/or expelled. We can't have our institutions of higher learning corrupted with positive ideas about America.
Heck yeah. It's not the bill's actual facts that matter: it's what misleading soundbites can be twisted out of it.
Translation : "different viewpoints than ours may be expressed and we'll lose our lock on hearts and minds!"
It's a sad commentary on how far into fascism the left has fallen that actual legislation must be introduced to allow freedom of speech in an area that was once considered the bastion of free speech even before there was a United States to guarantee free speech in writing.
It's ironic that the man fighting the left to allow freedom of speech was formerly one of their own. It's also a good thing for everyone and especially the far left. Who better than one of their own to point out and attempt to correct it?
I'm sympathetic to your point - allowing the free market to decide these things is virtually always the best option - but I'm afraid this case may be different. A tight enough monopoly can take decades for the free market to crack, and I question the wisdom of allowing America's higher education system to stay screwed up for that long.
Also, remember that these institutions get a ton of money from state and federal govenrnments, and legislatures are (supposed to be) in charge of how our taxes get spent.
"My shoe is smarter than Barbara Boxer."
And I'm sure it has more sole.
Well, of course in this scenario no one would know you changed your beliefs unless you told them. And if you tell them then by default you would be expressing an opinion not held by the institution. And if you decide to go against what the institution upholds then I think they have a right to fire you. Again, to those just reading we are speaking of religious institutions.
Barabara Boxer is not "smart" - she is a leftist puppet reflexively orating the prescripted "liberal" dogma.
"Smart" people think and mitigate their thoughts in the old fashioned Socratic way. Boxer's extremist viewpoint isn't smart - it's extremism. She's an indoctrinated fool committed to a pro-neoMarxist orthodoxy. It is obvious how rigidly set her reflexive thinking process is.
By contrast, Hillary Clinton is the Hydra with a myriad of duplicities with which to deceive and to conquer.
Boxer is too obvious of a willing fool cloned in some Pavlovian lab. But, Hillary Clinton is self-entitling, ruthlessly ambitious and politically pragmatic. For expediency she will betray any ideology or any commitment to fulfill her powerlust. Boxer is just a low pitch bitch, but Hillary is the prime demagogue. Both are easy studies.
Is it true David and Ann Coulter are dating?
"Is it true David and Ann Coulter are dating?"
The significance of which is...?
Lighten up!
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