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A view from Mexico
San Diego Union, leeter to Editor ^
| Feb.19,2005
| JESSE ALUXAN
Posted on 02/19/2005 3:39:49 PM PST by Ramonan
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Actually I would say that a lot of illegals pay taxes. Many of their employers don't ask if they are here legally but will use the fake documentation to pay their social security and income taxes.
To: bayourod; DoughtyOne; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Travis McGee; ...
"Today it just happens to be (illegal alien) Mexicans" who wilfully and knowingly broke federal felony laws sneaking into the USA.
You seem to pretend they enter the USA legally or have legal status here - the Irish, Germans. Italians, Brits, and others entered legally thru Ellis Island and INS inspections - they did not break America's laws coming here -
Your petty stealth revisionism fools nobody on FR -
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posted on
02/19/2005 6:38:13 PM PST
by
devolve
( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/Vikings.html)
To: devolve
Please don't tell me this is gonna be another OBL thread.
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posted on
02/19/2005 6:40:38 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
To: bayourod
It's impossible to close the border.
Nothing is impossible Vicente.
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posted on
02/19/2005 6:44:54 PM PST
by
philetus
(What goes around comes around)
Comment #45 Removed by Moderator
To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; DoughtyOne; PhilDragoo; Travis McGee; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass
Some FReepers and lurkers and visitors do not spot the semi-hidden agenda sleepers on FR.
We have seen the previous comments and agendas on this issue and don't buy the camo.
A bounty system on all these criminal illegal aliens and all the crooked employers of illegal aliens.
No dinky "fine" or "warning tickets" - instantly deport illegal aliens - seize the assets and property and inventory of employers of illegal aliens and try, convict, sentence them to long hard time in federal prisons with zero "probation", "parole" or "good time" early releases.
If that does not work much stronger methods will follow by private citizens.
Mexican officials inside the USA should be tried, convicted, sentenced to Conspiracy to commit Federal felonies.
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posted on
02/19/2005 6:56:14 PM PST
by
devolve
( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/Vikings.html)
To: devolve
"the Irish, Germans. Italians, Brits, and others entered legally thru Ellis Island and INS inspections " I'm sure the Mexican laborers would love to just show up at U.S. entry points (like Ellis Island was) without any prior approval, take a physical exam, and be admitted to the U.S. as permanent residents.
Why don't you write your Congressman and propose that?
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:03:09 PM PST
by
bayourod
("It's for the children" has been replaced by "It's to fight terrorists.")
To: bayourod; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Travis McGee; DoughtyOne; ...
no sale - no diversion
you are only an apologist for criminals
cherry-picking which laws you wish to obey or not obey does not fly
your agenda is well documented here on FR
"Mexican laborers"? - Once again you cannot say "illegal aliens".....
-- terminate communication
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:13:42 PM PST
by
devolve
( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/Vikings.html)
To: devolve
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:16:30 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: bayourod
""Then you should have no problem supporting President Bush's guest worker legislation that would provide for legal immigrant laborers.""
We already have a guest worker program. It's called a Visa, and it's legal.
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:18:23 PM PST
by
LauraleeBraswell
( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
To: Happy2BMe
Excellent post. Thank you.
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:28:21 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: philetus
52
posted on
02/19/2005 7:29:27 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: Ramonan
As Paul Harvey would say....
And thats the other side of the story..
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:34:40 PM PST
by
hosepipe
(This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
To: FITZ
54
posted on
02/19/2005 7:35:42 PM PST
by
Doohickey
("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
Comment #55 Removed by Moderator
To: bayourod
So this Mexican demanding accountablity from his government is asking too much?
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:39:11 PM PST
by
Doohickey
("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
To: Ramonan
Basic sociology: get rid of the push factors (jobs in Mexico) and the pull factors (jobs in the US) and we wouldn't have to worry about illegal immigration from Mexico.
Mexico needs to work on the push factos.
We need to work on eliminating the pull factors.
--from an American whose ancestors came from Mexico because of the 1910 revolution.
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posted on
02/19/2005 7:41:10 PM PST
by
Betis70
(I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
To: Ramonan
Good post, I hope many Mexicans come to agree with this perspective. I think it is a viewpoint that a true patriot in Mexico should adopt. Our countries are linked by many things and always will be. Even with the border closed to further illegal immigration the Mexican blood flowing in many Americans will always tie us together. The illegal immigration is hurting Mexico by letting the government avoid it's responsibility to it's people. I would like to see Mexico become more of a equal partner with the United States and Canada. This will never happen unless the Mexican people work to solve their countries problems in Mexico. For our own future here in the United States we must secure the border for both security and cultural reasons. The United States is not Mexico, and should not be expected to shoulder the burden of it's governments failures.
To: DoughtyOne; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Victoria Delsoul; ...
Maria Sanchez is alive and posting here on FR.
Soliciting others to commit federal criminal felonies is not exactly a defendable position.
The broken record still endlessly plays but the natives are restless and angry.
I am pleased to see many young FReepers with wisdom, loyalty, and honesty many more mature people lack.
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posted on
02/19/2005 8:13:11 PM PST
by
devolve
( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/Vikings.html)
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