Posted on 02/19/2005 2:54:17 PM PST by Harkonnendog
At the very least, even the toughest identity police among us will have to admit that, as a United States citizen, Churchill has the right to ethnically self-identify in any way he wants, as is the official policy of the U.S. Census Bureau. But even if he is a white man (which I am not prepared to admit as fact, since all the ''evidence'' seems based on hearsay), my question is: so what? It's not like an author of his stature and reputation needs the helping hand of affirmative action to land a job.
(Excerpt) Read more at indiancountry.com ...
can u point me to your reference for this please?
I have a dialogue going with the UH professor who invited Churchill to lecture there and I would like to give him more info...
thanx.
Sorry, to be more clear- I'd like to have the URL or other references that can prove the statements below are true:
(not because I don't believe you, but so that I can send the links to Professor Perkins. Thanx.)
"The Census Bureau policy is irrelevant for purposes of this discussion. CU's policy is the relevant standard.
The application Churchill filled out stated clearly that the description Native American/Pacific Islander applied only to persons descended from the original peoples of North America."
"Moreover, Churchill claimed Affirmative Action preference on his application. He was one of eleven Native Americans who applied for the job, one of two who were interviewed.
I rather doubt that the other Native American who was interviewed would feel quite so dismissive about Churchill's true ancestry as Mr. Lyons is."
Here you go.
Complete with photostatic copies of the documents.
More material here, from KHOW radio in Denver.
A Dune fan, eh?
Yeah, I read Dune like 20 times, lol. Thanx for the quick reply!
do u, by any chance, also have definitive proof that he's not 3/16 Cherokee? That seems to be the hinge of the argument. I know it is difficult to prove a negative, but it seems it is necessary.
Thanx again!
I don't quite know how one goes about proving a negative. But Indian Country has been on Churchill's case for years and this article by Suzan Harjo is a good summary of their semi-official view.
Plus, there are hearsay reports included that, at one time, Churchill claimed no Native American ancestry.
Another Indian Country article identified Churchill's supposed Cherokee ancestor as a gentleman named Tyner (or Tyson, can't recall), c. 1780-1800. It appears that Tyner's second wife was indian, but Churchill is descended via the first wife. A search of their website or Google might uncover that specific report.
I think that's the real reason people are now howling for Churchill's head: he committed the cardinal sin of asking Americans toconsider the factsignore his blatant biases and persistent fraud andthink for themselvesthink like him...
There, that's a bit more accurate.
I think there were many well-intentioned critiques written about American foreign policy and whether and to what degree it had anything to do with 9/11. I don't think many of those critics raised nearly the ire Churchill has, and for good reason. I don't recall any of them sinking to Churchill's despicable attempt to equate innocent civilians with Eichmann, nor measured, organized military action to ruthless, murderous terrorism.
Ordinary people can intuitively tell the difference. Mr. Churchill knows the difference. The ire of the American public is ignited when this perverse, inflammatory rhetoric is condescendingly published in the name of scholarly thought. When this vitriol is added to Churchill's long history of fraud and unscrupulous ambition, even a patient and tolerant public might just get sick of it.
thanx again okie01.
I used your references and commentary in an email to perkins. i cited you in my blog about it. u can check it out here
http://harkonnendog.blogspot.com/2005/02/another-email-to-prof-perkinson.html
if u like.
Something along the line of- "he's a hustler making a buck- why bother him?" I don't care for ethnic identifcation, Affirmative Action etc, so she's got a point.
At bottom, I agree with her assessment of Churchill. His entire life has been pretty much a lie. E.g., he claims to have been a Ranger and seen combat in Viet Nam -- when he drove a jeep and edited the battalion newsletter...he claims to have written for Soldier of Fortune -- but they never heard of him, even in a free lance capacity...he claims to have taught the Weather Underground how to make bombs -- but those he may have taught have been silent (or deceased).
Early on, Churchill found a way to game the system -- and it suited him. It was a relatively easy gig...and it earned him a lot of fawning attention. A natural occupation for a self-absorbed grifter, who probably spent his juvenile and adolescent years nursing resentments and bitching about life being "unfair" to him (not others).
Churchill's interest in the "oppression" of American Indians probably extends no further than that of an actor playing a part.
It's amazing how academe could buy into such a transparent scam. Perkinson is a fool if he insists on feeding the monster.
That's not to say that, as a partisan, I wouldn't mind Churchill making regular public appearances and getting beaucoup TV coverage. He is the academic left's tar baby -- and the more he talks, the more he reveals about them all.
Quoted in article, excerpt from http://www.pressaction.com
"A few minutes after the state of the union address, Colorado Governor Bill Owens called in to my evening show, during which I cited the treason statute as I had on previous shows covering the professor. My show is heard via the airwaves in 38 states and around the world via streaming audio (an Internet-based parlor trick), so the more I said treason the more the word caught on. Now the governor has apparently looked into the treason angle and agrees that Churchill has committed treason. So, too, have some people like MSNBCs Joe Scarborough, according to one of my listeners who watch MSNBC."
Ward Churchill is a self-avowed Marxist. To my understanding, Marxism is the very antithesis to America's founding precepts: its Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Proclamation of Independence. The truth is Marxists covet the power of capitalism and despise middle-class economic independence. Today, America has no oppressed labour class so Marxists foment issues warfare through violent "peace" protests and by leading centric groups into militant activism. The funny part, the big fallacy of socialist utopian benevolence, is that a Marxist/Socialist government would be the sole and exclusive capitalist! Think about this: a ruthless covetness is the root of Karl Marx's anti-capitalism.
More about Marxist Ward Churchill who insults all American Indians because he justifies his radicalism by posing as an irate dispossessed American Indian:
The Record of a Radical
By Jacob Laksin
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 10, 2005
Thanks in large measure to the impassioned public outcry prompted by his invitation to speak at Hamilton College, some of the disquieting aspects of Ward Churchills career are now common knowledge. He is, infamously, the tenured professor of Ethnic Studies at the University of Colorado who waxed rhapsodic about the September 11 terrorist attacks while vilifying its victims inside the World Trade Center as little Eichmans. Less well known is the fact that he has long advocated political violenceand has apparently practiced what he preached. He has also falsified his own personal history (apparently including his ethnicity and combat status) and twisted history to accuse white Americans of genocide.
Indeed, on at least two occasions, Churchill has been accused of throttling speech he does not endorse by violent means. In 1993, following his ouster from the radical group the American Indian Movement (AIM), Churchill reportedly retaliated by spitting in the face of AIMs elderly leader, Carol Standing Elk, while a younger accomplice broke her wrist. In a less violent but equally offensive example of direct action ten years later, Churchillwho has repeatedly invoked his right to free speech as all-purpose defense against his criticswas acquitted on charges of obstructing the Columbus Day parade in Denver. Likeminded judges, it seems, accepted Churchill's protestations that a parade celebrating Columbus was tantamount to hate speech.
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