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Former submariner gets what he deserves; Medal to be awarded to former pharmacists' mate
Sun Journal (New Burn, NC) ^ | 2/19/05 | Charlie Hall

Posted on 02/19/2005 12:34:11 PM PST by IonImplantGuru

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To: NorCalRepub
Ensign Pulver. It was the sequel to Mr. Roberts.
41 posted on 02/20/2005 4:32:59 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Smartass
All well and good... but THIS (SS-194) is the USS Seadragon that our Pharmacist's Mate served on and where he performed his notable surgery:


42 posted on 02/20/2005 1:49:49 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: TexConfederate1861; Doohickey
Please add me to your ping list: Former crewmember of USS Sunfish SSN-649!

It's not my Ping list, Tex. Doohickey is the keeper of the Steely-eyed Killers of the Deep ping list; I'd bet he'd be willing to add you though... IF we ask real nice! Doohickey?

43 posted on 02/20/2005 1:53:40 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: Valin; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
10 Dec—USS Seadragon (SS 194) and USS Sealion (SS 195) in Cavite, Philippines, are attacked by Japanese aircraft. Ensign Samuel H. Hunter in Seadragon is instantly killed, the first submarine casualty of World War II. Four men in Sealion are killed, and Sealion is so badly damaged that it is scuttled on Christmas Day—the first U.S. submarine destroyed in World War II.

What a coincidence! I was looking up images of Seadragon at NavSouce.org (recommended as a favorite for any USN enthusiast - very nice selection of pics for about any ship or naval aircraft) and found the drawing below which illustrates the event you're talking about.

Seadragon is on the right, and Sealion received 2 nearly simultaneous bomb hits and sunk right there. She was subsequently raised and taken out into Manila Bay and scuttled, to prevent the Japs from salvaging her.


44 posted on 02/20/2005 2:19:24 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: IonImplantGuru
"Lipes performed a historic and controversial surgery...

Controversial? in what sense?

45 posted on 02/20/2005 2:35:03 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: IonImplantGuru

I just plugged in "USS Seadragon" into google.


46 posted on 02/20/2005 3:47:41 PM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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To: muir_redwoods
"Controversial? in what sense?"

In the sense that the Navy medical establishment of the time were outraged that an enlisted man (glorified nurse in the MD's view) dared to "practice medicine without a license".

Dumb?

You bet! But that's probably why this guy didn't get a medal right away; we live in more enlightened times.

47 posted on 02/20/2005 4:37:28 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: Valin
"I just plugged in "USS Seadragon" into google."

No problema! A lot of folks are unaware that the Navy recycles ship's names, so a lot of more modern ships like the Seadragon (SSN 584) you posted will have predecessors, like the SS-194 Seadragon that I posted.

As a subvet, I'm more likely perhaps to realize there were more than 1 Seadragon, and that the boat you showed wasn't WW II vintage.

48 posted on 02/20/2005 4:42:20 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: lawgirl

From IMDB trivia for Destination Tokyo...

"The appendectomy done in this film actually happened. It was performed on the USS Silversides SS236. This submarine is docked in Muskegon, Michigan."


49 posted on 02/20/2005 4:43:47 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: IonImplantGuru
Sorry about that. I had good intentions!
50 posted on 02/20/2005 6:01:39 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: TexConfederate1861

You've got it!


51 posted on 02/21/2005 1:17:55 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the bump.


52 posted on 02/21/2005 2:30:50 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (Warning: Not being an open-borders RINO can be dangerous to your FR health.)
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To: Doohickey

Much Thanks!

I would appreciate hearing from any former crew of Sally Sunfish......:)


53 posted on 02/21/2005 3:04:50 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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