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To: Zeroisanumber
You've got your science wrong. Neanderthals were human relatives, but evolved from a different offshoot of a common ancestor. They weren't our ancestors........

What seems to get left out of all of this is that angels mated with women and their offspring was some kind of hybrid. The human population was becoming corrupted on a large scale with these angel genes and this in large part is why mankind except Noah and his family were destroyed. Hybrids could not ultimately be saved as when Christ came he became a propitiation for mankind not angel or man- angelkind. Also it appears that demons tried to imitate what the angel had done. The angels were judged and locked up in chains of darkness. It seems that the giants that were around at the time of King David may have been demon (fallen angel) and man hybrids. Now just how do all you evolutionist think that all these corrupted gene pools might show up in fossil record? Wouldn't you automatically call them another evolutionary link because you were not aware of things that went on that were out of the realm of your knowledge?

636 posted on 02/23/2005 4:50:12 AM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: Bellflower
..... What seems to get left out of all of this is that angels mated with women and their offspring was some kind of hybrid.
 
Genesis 6
 1.  When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,
 2.  the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.

This appears to be the case by a casual reading, but study indicates that the text does not support this idea.


Genesis 1
 26.  Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
 27.  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
 
 
Genesis 4
 
 1.  Adam  lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.  She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth  a man."
 2.  Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.   Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil.
 
 
(Now just WHERE did CAIN get HIS wife from question goes in here.   The answer is that it was his sister.)
 
 
Genesis 5
 1.  This is the written account of Adam's line.   When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God.
 2.  He created them male and female and blessed them. And when they were created, he called them "man. "
 3.  When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth.
 4.  After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
 
 
Genesis 6
 1.  When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,
 2.  the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
 3.  Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with  man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
 4.  The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
 
 
The 'SoG' were the lineage from Cain; the 'DoM' were the lineage from Seth onward.
 

 
Just WHO were these NEPHILIM??
 
 
 
 
Topics: Gi'ants
 
Text: 
 
(1.) Heb. nephilim, meaning "violent" or "causing to fall" (Gen. 6:4). These were the violent tyrants of those days, those who fell upon others. The word may also be derived from a root signifying "wonder," and hence "monsters" or "prodigies." In Num. 13:33 this name is given to a Canaanitish tribe, a race of large stature, "the sons of Anak." The Revised Version, in these passages, simply transliterates the original, and reads "Nephilim."
 
(2.) Heb. rephaim, a race of giants (Deut. 3:11) who lived on the east of Jordan, from whom was descended. They were probably the original inhabitants of the land before the immigration of the Canaanites. They were conquered by Chedorlaomer (Gen. 14:5), and their territories were promised as a possession to Abraham (15:20).
 
The Anakim, Zuzim, and Emim were branches of this stock. In Job 26:5 (R.V., "they that are deceased;" marg., "the shades," the "Rephaim") and Isa. 14:9 this Hebrew word is rendered (A.V.) "dead." It means here "the shades," the departed spirits in Sheol.
 
In Sam. 21:16, 18, 20, 33, "the giant" is (A.V.) the rendering of the singular form ha raphah, which may possibly be the name of the father of the four giants referred to here, or of the founder of the Rephaim. The Vulgate here reads "Arapha," whence Milton (in Samson Agonistes) has borrowed the name "Harapha." (See also 1 Chron. 20: 5, 6, 8; Deut. 2:11, 20; 3:13; Josh. 15:8, etc., where the word is similarly rendered "giant.") It is rendered "dead" in (A.V.) Ps. 88:10; Prov. 2:18; 9:18; 21:16: in all these places the Revised Version marg. has "the shades." (See also Isa. 26:14.)
 
(3.) Heb. 'Anakim (Deut. 2:10, 11, 21; Josh. 11:21, 22; 14:12, 15; called "sons of Anak," Num. 13:33; "children of Anak," 13:22; Josh. 15:14), a nomad race of giants descended from Arba (Josh. 14:15), the father of Anak, that dwelt in the south of Palestine near Hebron (Gen. 23:2; Josh. 15:13). They were a Cushite tribe of the same race as the Philistines and the Egyptian shepherd kings. David on several occasions encountered them (2 Sam. 21:15-22). From this race sprung Goliath (1 Sam. 17:4).
 
(4.) Heb. 'emin, a warlike tribe of the ancient Canaanites. They were "great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims" (Gen. 14:5; Deut. 2:10, 11).
 
(5.) Heb. Zamzummim (q.v.), Deut. 2:20 so called by the Amorites.
 
(6.) Heb. gibbor (Job 16:14), a mighty one, i.e., a champion or hero. In its plural form (gibborim) it is rendered "mighty men" (2 Sam. 23:8-39; 1 Kings 1:8; 1 Chr. 11:9-47; 29:24.) The band of six hundred whom David gathered around him when he was a fugitive were so designated. They were divided into three divisions of two hundred each, and thirty divisions of twenty each. The captians of the thirty divisions were called "the thirty," the captains of the two hundred "the three," and the captain over the whole was called "chief among the captains" (2 Sam. 23:8). The sons born of the marriages mentioned in Gen. 6:4 are also called by this Hebrew name.
 
 
 
 
Jesus specifically said that angels "Do not marry" here:
 
Matthew 22
 29.  Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
 30.  For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

641 posted on 02/23/2005 6:09:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Bellflower
"What seems to get left out of all of this is that angels mated with women and their offspring was some kind of hybrid."

RELIGIOUS KOOK ALERT!!!!!!!

Been spending a lot of time on TBN, I see.

645 posted on 02/23/2005 6:21:24 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Macroevolution is the last of the great Mystery Religions of the 19th century.)
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To: Bellflower

I'm not qualified to answer your question because I'm not totally nuts.


650 posted on 02/23/2005 9:10:05 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Bellflower

651 posted on 02/23/2005 9:17:53 AM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: PatrickHenry; longshadow
What seems to get left out of all of this is that angels mated with women and their offspring was some kind of hybrid.

The human population was becoming corrupted on a large scale with these angel genes...

...demons tried to imitate what the angel had done.

The angels were judged and locked up in chains of darkness.

It seems that the giants that were around at the time of King David may have been demon (fallen angel) and man hybrids.

Classic stuff. An absolute gem of a post.

Every now and again I am reminded why I love these threads.

653 posted on 02/23/2005 9:33:54 AM PST by RightWingNilla
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