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To: pookie18

I've been wondering who among the Republicans would be a viable candidate in 08 since there's no heir apparent.

This scenario makes sense but there's one fly in the ointment. Condi's never been elected to office. Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?


11 posted on 02/19/2005 4:58:24 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Arkie2
Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ulysses Grant never held elective office. All four were successful generals. Does being NSA and SoS qualify? SoS USED to be the MAIN route to the presidency (Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Buchanan) but no longer was after the Civil War.

Condi could be a good choice IF---and only if---she makes up her mind to cut away from the pack on immigration. If she stakes out a strong anti-illegal stand, and maybe lures Owens in as Veep, even her "pro-choice" views would be politically irrelevant.

21 posted on 02/19/2005 5:03:42 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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To: Arkie2

Presidents Hoover and Eisenhower.


22 posted on 02/19/2005 5:07:14 AM PST by Reader of news
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To: Arkie2
This scenario makes sense but there's one fly in the ointment. Condi's never been elected to office. Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?

Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, and Andrew Jackson for sure.

Not so sure, but maybe Woodrow Wilson?

Even Abraham Lincoln only held one 2 year term in the House, and was defeated when he re-ran, and it was a long time before he ran for President.

37 posted on 02/19/2005 5:21:10 AM PST by 9999lakes
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To: Arkie2
This scenario makes sense but there's one fly in the ointment. Condi's never been elected to office. Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?

Co-elected, remember ?


39 posted on 02/19/2005 5:22:37 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: Arkie2

In case it hasn't been answered yet...Dwight D. Eisenhower.


47 posted on 02/19/2005 5:29:22 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Arkie2
"...(besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?"

Any number of the "military presidents" qualify---Andrew Jackson,Zachary Taylor, Ulysses Grant, Ike (one has to consider Washington a "military president" as well). I suspect there were civilians in there too.

53 posted on 02/19/2005 5:34:27 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Arkie2
never been elected to office

she's been too busy accomplishing real experience

57 posted on 02/19/2005 5:35:40 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Arkie2
Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?

Eisenhower. Grant.

61 posted on 02/19/2005 5:38:07 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: Arkie2

"This scenario makes sense but there's one fly in the ointment. Condi's never been elected to office. Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?"

Yes. General Dwight David Eisenhower, and General Ullyses S. Grant. Both terrible presidents who did unbelievable damage to the Republican party.

Also, in the winner of the 1912 race was just a university professor with no electoral experience at all in 1909. But then Woodrow Wilson got himself elected governor of New Jersey in 1910 and ran for president in 1912, and won re-election in 1916.


86 posted on 02/19/2005 6:03:29 AM PST by dangus
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To: Arkie2

This scenario makes sense but there's one fly in the ointment. Condi's never been elected to office. Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?



Ike


105 posted on 02/19/2005 6:24:20 AM PST by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Arkie2
"This scenario makes sense but there's one fly in the ointment. Condi's never been elected to office. Is there a precedence for someone (besides George Washington or maybe one of the very earliest Prez's) being elected with no previous elected office?"

Not since Eisenhower. There are quite a few former military officers who came in that way (Scott, Grant). Also Jefferson, who was not military.

185 posted on 02/19/2005 8:27:48 AM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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To: Arkie2

Although he did not hold prior U.S. government elected office, George Washington was a delegate to the Virginia House of Burgesses before the Revolution..... State legislators (although not directly usually via military service or through other offices) during that time was a regular stepping stone to the presidency...


248 posted on 02/19/2005 9:58:52 AM PST by Schwaeky (Islam is a Religion of Peace---AND THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!!!!)
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To: Arkie2

Is there a precedent for electing someone to the presidency who has next to nothing in the way of administrative experience, someone who holds office because of the power and influence of their spouse's position? Compare this with the experience of managing the State Dept, the national security apparatus, and not withstanding major management positions at a university and various organizations. Should be a no-brainer. Should be.......


260 posted on 02/19/2005 10:12:58 AM PST by Grateful One
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