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1 posted on 02/18/2005 5:55:47 PM PST by Lathspell
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To: Lathspell

No disappointment at all. I always thought it was a piece of fiction created by W&B along with Bradley.


2 posted on 02/18/2005 5:57:50 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


3 posted on 02/18/2005 6:00:15 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Lathspell

He tried in vain to discredit Nixon and yet he did just the opposite with this.


4 posted on 02/18/2005 6:01:48 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: Lathspell
Before the year is out, regardless, Woodward and Bernstein will reveal who they claim is deep throat.

The person, who is supposed to be "deep throat" is reportedly ill.

If its a composite character, then people will say these guys are lying.

5 posted on 02/18/2005 6:04:43 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Lathspell
Interesting.....This way all the sources keep their ident a secret for the most part.

Gotta be one that stands out though.

7 posted on 02/18/2005 6:06:46 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Lathspell

No news here, Eric...tell us something we didn't already know.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 6:06:57 PM PST by Harpo Speaks (Honk! Honk! Honk! Either it's foggy out, or make that a dozen hard boiled eggs.)
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I absolutely agree with Burns. Woodward and Bernstein were obviously using "Deep Throat" to report what they wanted to say themselves and generate some buzz with the name.

If DT wasn't Diane Sawyer, and how could it not be a woman since its named after Linda Lovelace, then there is no Deep Throat.

13 posted on 02/18/2005 6:24:53 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Lathspell

Last time I checked, Bill Clinton is ill and his wife was impeachment cousel...


16 posted on 02/18/2005 6:45:34 PM PST by Prost1 (The Democrats hate Emancipation! They cannot control the vote!)
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To: Lathspell

Bump


18 posted on 02/18/2005 6:48:29 PM PST by BunnySlippers (When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest! - Bullwinkle J. Moose)
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To: Lathspell

If Deep Throat did not exist, man would have to invent him.


21 posted on 02/18/2005 7:03:03 PM PST by woofie
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To: Lathspell
The idea that Deep Throat was a composite has been suspected by several authors --not just Stephen Ambrose-- for a long time.

To make his book read like more of a mystery thriller (and thus sell better), Woodward clumsily stirred in dollops of 'spook tradecraft.'

For example, Woodward pretended that he and Deep Throat had concocted a mysterious signaling system -- INVOLVING, lamely enough, A POTTED PLANT.

Posted on another thread yesterday:

YEAH, AND WHAT ABOUT THAT POTTED PLANT?

From the Miami Herald, 06/16/2002:

...Woodward and Bernstein have always insisted Deep Throat is real, not a composite or an invention. But it's also true they were not above fudging a bit to tell a good story. Other books on Watergate have pinpointed a number of literary embellishments -- metaphorically convenient rainstorms on days when the Washington weather was actually clear, for instance -- in All The President's Men that exaggerate, distort or outright falsify the truth.

DETAILS HARD TO VERIFY

Many of them concern the spook tradecraft Woodward supposedly used to set up his late-night parking garage meetings with Deep Throat, which make delicious reading but don't stand up to hard scrutiny. If Woodward wanted a meeting, he moved a potted plant to a particular spot on his apartment's outdoor balcony. If Deep Throat wanted a meeting, a coded handwritten note would mysteriously appear on page 20 of the copy of The New York Times delivered to Woodward's apartment.

But as several Watergate scholars have noted, Woodward's sixth-floor balcony couldn't be seen from the street and was almost invisible even inside the building's courtyard. And the building's New York Times subscribers got their paper from a stack left in the lobby, making it impossible to know which one would go to Woodward on any given day.

''The secret of Deep Throat is that there was no Deep Throat,'' declares Adrian Havill, author of the Woodward-and-Bernstein biography Deep Truth. ``And if there was -- with his cigarette habit, a big drinker, and being much older than Woodward -- he's likely dead.''

We know that woodward is a fabricator (viz his getting revelations out of a comatose Bill Casey), and Bernstein is such a dumb ox, that I'm inclined to agree with the authors who think that 'Deep Throat' is either a composite of several persons (and embellished..er...liberally); or, a complete fraud.

22 posted on 02/18/2005 7:08:20 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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Eric Burns tells Shepard Smith that he knows the identity of Deep Throat.

Doesn't everyone know him?


31 posted on 02/18/2005 7:56:46 PM PST by ravinson
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To: Lathspell

Many freepers have long come to the conclusion that deep throat was fiction. And I question the accuracy of the details.

Isn't this really old news in blogosphere? Takes the print/TV press forever to catch up. Probably beacuse so much of the MSM leftist world view is built on deception and outright lies.


33 posted on 02/18/2005 8:08:03 PM PST by Diplomat
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This reminds me of a show like 20/20 a year or two ago doing a show on a college class (from Illinois, I think) that had the assignment that semester of figuring out who "Deep Throat" was. They all worked together and they were taken around in circles because (for example) when they would think it was Kissinger who met Woodward in the underground parking lot, they would discover that Kissinger was in Europe at that time. It went on and on like that with every suspect. They still were unsure at the end, but they decided it was probably PAT BUCHANAN. Pat denied it, and I believe him because he was a Nixon loyalist.

Eric Burns' account, per Stephen Ambrose, makes more sense than anything I have ever heard. I believe "Deep Throat" was MANY sources compiled into one as Ambrose said. Woodward and Bernstein are probably waiting until they ALL die before telling. Of course, I thought reporters were never to reveal anonymous sources.


36 posted on 02/18/2005 8:56:36 PM PST by nightowl
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First of all, John Dean is not dead. He doesn't even appear to be ill, certainly not seriously ill.

I saw him present at Arlington Towers in the Madison building in the early morning on three different days, in January 1973.

He had a large black valise. He entered the elevator to go UP as I got off.

None of that is terribly suspicious. On the other hand, on those very same days the "Cuban Defendants" were going to go to court to make pleas regarding their involvement in the Watergate scandal.

They were resident on the 7th floor.

Jack Anderson had his own agent hidden in the closet of the apartment where the "Cuban Defendants" met before going to court on each of those days. Although he couldn't hear everything, nor could he identify the voice, he was able to determine that money was offered, and paid.

Presumably we had the President's counsel paying a bribe to some of the folks involved so they'd cop a plea and let everybody else off the hook.

So, why should we then believe John Dean was "Deep Throat" based on this not-unexpected soft of involvement.

Well, there are three things ~ Woodward and Bernstein's book on the matter artfully failed to include ANYTHING AT ALL that happened in January 1973! If you can believe them, in the flurry of activity, public hearings, trials, scandal montering, investigations, and all that those things entail, where almost every single day is accounted for regarding these matters on the pages of the Washington Post, an entire month just flat out disappeared and nothing happened.

It's certainly a sign of someone's guilty conscience, or it's a coverup.

Then, there's John Dean himself. He started talking the next month, and by March he'd opened the floodgates.

Although there are a lot of other candidates, no one was more involved, said more about it, and got better protection for his actions than John Dean ~ that is, until he got to Allenwood and met his roommate!

38 posted on 02/19/2005 7:46:40 AM PST by muawiyah
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My take on 'Deep Throat' that it wasn't one individual but a composite of several has been my belief for over 20 year. What confirmed it, in my view, was Woodward's deathbed interview of former CIA Director William Casey ... which didn't happen according to Casey's wife, who, with other family members ... were with him around the clock for days prior to his death. Woodward, like his liberal brethren in the journalism field, has a problem with the truth when actual fact doesn't jibe with his vision of issues.
43 posted on 02/19/2005 8:08:30 AM PST by BluH2o
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No Deep Throat and no illegal trip to Cambodia?? The 70's are falling apart!!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Winning Troops

45 posted on 02/19/2005 8:23:33 AM PST by bray (Iraq Freed Politically and Pray it will be Freed Spiritually)
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I knew Steve well. He, I and Gov Martz drank tequila at Windbag's on the Gulch one night in 2001. If Woodward and Bernstien were going to reveal Deep Throat's name after his death, they would have revealed it over a year ago, when Steve died.


48 posted on 02/19/2005 5:23:12 PM PST by CholeraJoe (On the third day, the Lord invented the Remington bolt action rifle so that man could hunt dinosaurs)
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The folks who worked with "Woodstein" at the Washington Post said that Deep Throat existed long before the Watergate investigation gained national importance and before any book deal was even considered a possibility. They say Woodstein may have hyped his importance in the book, but he's definitely real. As for the first manuscript for ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, Mr. Burns is correct - it did not contain any reference to Deep Throat. But their editor was fascinated by the stories she heard from Woodstein and the others at the Post and thought it would spice up the story.

If anyone wants to read an interesting theory on Deep Throat's identity check out the following web site
http://www.deepthroatblog.blogspot.com/

If this theory is correct, Deep Throat is not only real - he's a regular guest on FOX News!


61 posted on 02/20/2005 10:59:51 AM PST by wjrr
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[ "Deep Throat is fiction" ]

Except in back rooms in the Senate..
With meetings between lobbyists and Senators..
Where a hefty breeze blows.. many blow jobs going on there..

62 posted on 02/20/2005 11:01:29 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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