US, OAS Members Sign New Environmental Agreements

VOA News ^ | February 18, 2005 | VOA News

[Dog Gone]

Food is a major export item for us, but there is demand for appliances, automobiles, and other durable goods. Central America is inhabited by more than peasants picking coffee beans.

[Dog Gone]

I'm not going down that path with you. Your sky is falling mentality about CAFTA handing the keys to our country to the UN or any other international organization is just nonsense.

This is a trade agreement which lowers barriers to trade.

[hedgetrimmer]

The Miami Summit(Summit of the Americas of the OAS) of the Americas led to a plan of Action addressing 'the economic, social, political, and environmental aspects of sustainability', with a strong input from the Agenda 21 sustainability process that had begun with the Rio Earth Summit of 1992 (Rosenberg 2001). The Miami Plan of Action contained key initiative on biodiversity, energy use, and pollution prevention, but also began the idea of a free trade area that would embrace all of the Americas, taking further the original idea of the 'Enterprise for the Americas Initiative' of 1990 (Carranza 2000).

[hedgetrimmer]

Because you know sustainable development is the key to establish a global socialist system and that any agreements we sign supporting or promoting it mire the United States more and more deeply into socialism.

The evidence linking the UN and other international organizations to NAFTA CAFTA and the FTAA is myriad. A poster on this thread showed the relationship of the CAFTA and the tripartate committee that oversaw its development directly to the United Nations.

The Miami Plan of Action(which also promotes Agenda 21) promises that FTAA governments will “cooperate fully with all United Nations” agreements...

The Tripartite Committee is composed of the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean, the Organization of American States, and the Inter-American Development Bank. ECLAC was created by the UN’s Economic and Social Council in 1948 and is an official agency of the UN. On its own website, ECLAC refers to itself as “one of the five regional commissions of the United Nations.”


See post #42 and thank you lawdog for posting it.

You can pretend all this is not happening, but you are not doing yourself or your fellow Americans any favors by doing so, unless you are profiting monetarily from these international organizations somehow.

[hedgetrimmer]

UNDERSTANDING REGARDING IMMIGRATION MEASURES
August 5, 2004

http://www.ustr.gov/assets/Trade_Agreements/Bilateral/DR-CAFTA/DR-CAFTA_Final_Texts/asset_upload_file53_3983.pdf

Here is something interesting. The president and Robert Zoellick have signed off on an agreement that isn't complete. What to you suppose they will write into this? Do you think the American people will be privy to this information and process after Congress signs off on it?

This section on migration is completely blank.

[Almondjoy]

What.. you mean you are all for continueing global conflict?

Tisk Tisk.. and there you go again.. putting your economic needs above the needs of the world.

Shame on you.

I think America has gotten too comfortable with themselves.. they are willing to risk any challenges. I mean why should we actually have to fact any more competition then we already do from our neighbors here in America?

[Almondjoy]

are = aren't.

[Dog Gone]

There is nothing socialist about CAFTA. It's just the opposite. It gets government out of the way of individuals and companies that wish to conduct business.

If Congress approves it and it somehow leads to your worst fears, we can withdraw by giving six month's notice.

We won't, though, because this is a good agreement for us.

[Dog Gone]

Here is something interesting. The president and Robert Zoellick have signed off on an agreement that isn't complete. What to you suppose they will write into this? Do you think the American people will be privy to this information and process after Congress signs off on it?

This section on migration is completely blank.

Well, maybe your computer isn't working or your paranoia has blinded you because it's not blank on mine.

No provision of the Agreement shall be construed to impose any obligation on a Party regarding its immigration measures.

[Carry_Okie]

Yes, I know what sustainable development is. People disagree on how to achieve it, but very few people are in favor of unsustainable development.

There is a difference between sustainable development and Sustainable Development, which IS code for Agenda21. See Part V, Chaper 1: An Unsustainable Agenda. It's an easy read.

[Carry_Okie]

There is nothing socialist about CAFTA. It's just the opposite. It gets government out of the way of individuals and companies that wish to conduct business.

On the contrary, it socializes risk to subsidize business.

[Carry_Okie]

See Post 59.

[hedgetrimmer]

Oh, its not blank? Why isn't the country information filled in?

[Dog Gone]

CAFTA doesn't capitalize sustainable development the three times it is mentioned.

I read that chapter of your book, and thought it was one of the best. Agenda 21 is less than unacceptable.

[Dog Gone]

Because that's where the representatives were supposed to sign.

[Dog Gone]

It socializes what risk?

[inquest]

I asked you what the purpose of this Secretariat is. Since when do treaties require "Secretariats"?

[Dog Gone]

Interestingly, the moderators just changed the title of this thread to the headline as it appears at the source.

The interesting part isn't that; it's that the actual headline is even more misleading than the one you chose.

If CAFTA is an environmental agreement, I guess tort reform is, too.

[inquest]

If Congress approves it and it somehow leads to your worst fears, we can withdraw by giving six month's notice.

But obviously the corporations that benefit the most from it aren't going to go along with that idea. You think they'll care what the impact on our form of government will be?

[Dog Gone]

This Secretariat is the office where a country can complain that another country is violating its own environmental laws to engage in unfair trading practices. I'm not sure this is a treaty since anybody can get out of it if they want to simply by saying so.

It's more like a contract which can be terminated at any time, and contracts can provide for Secretariats, Man-o-Wars, and Affirmeds. Whatever they want, really.