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---interesting. I would expect that the combining of European nanny-state socialism and Islam will create something as repressive (and as successful) as the former USSR, with the smart ones trying to escape to what is left of the US of A----
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Bat Ye'or bump!
I refer you and all FR viewers to the article by David
Pryce-Jones in the Dec. '04 issue of Commentary, titled
"The Islamization of Europe?". Because the native EUROS
are ageing and have a rapidly declining birth rate they
are welcoming the sunami of Islamists to Europe to wait
on their tables and keep their streets clean until their
pension systems collapse. This augments the anti-Semitism
and anti-Americanism that comes from the EU. Just as we
in the U.S. are losing the 2nd Mexican War by out-of-
control borders and the massive influx of illegals, so
the EUROS are losing the Crusades again.
There's those two words that seem to always go together these days..france/arab. We might as well just start putting them together from now on.
The sooner the rest of Europe understands this the better. Maybe a few will get out without being forced to convert to Islam or become slaves.
I understand that greater Europe is the main concern for the future but the true state is that we have "Franabia" only for now.
This distinction will be very important when we try to throw all of Europe into one group. I am sure that Poland, Italy and Britain would object to an assumption of a current state of "Eurabia".
I have never heard that. I have heard they draw just under 25% in the Flemish regions in opinion polling, but that is not the same thing. As usual, quality numbers on Islam, militant Islam and anti-Islam in European countries are hard to get.
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Are you familiar with the work of Bat Ye’or and the issue of Dhimmitude, as well as her more recent research into the issue of Eurabia? I tend to be somewhat skeptical of ‘conspiracy’ theories (not that her views on Eurabia are conspiratorial in the classic sense), but it does suggest some rather worrying possibilities with regard to European alliances with Arab causes (and personalities) and the long term implications this has for American-European relations.
Victor Davis Hanson: Yes, I am familiar with her work. She is not a conspiracist at all, but an empiricist, whose work is based on observation, facts, and logic: look at the demography of Europe; look at the history of Christians living under Muslims (going to Church in Saudi Arabia is not the same as worshipping in a mosque in Madrid); and read not what Western elites say about Muslim clerics, but what Muslim clerics themselves say. So, yes, she is a scholar and should not be dismissed because her views bother us because they are largely insightful. Europe has a gut-check time coming very soon as it ponders Islamic populations in its own borders, the admission of Turkey into the EU (in some ways very good for the US, a disaster for Europe), and nuclear missile capability of Iran. We shall see whether it reawakens or not.