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Groups Preparing New Push Against Iraq War (Kick off on day of invasion Anniversary Next Month)
Washington Post ^ | February 18, 2005 | Evelyn Nieves

Posted on 02/17/2005 10:08:39 PM PST by Former Military Chick

On Feb. 15, 2003, as millions of people worldwide took to the streets to protest the imminent U.S. invasion of Iraq, Marine Lance Cpl. Michael Hoffman was in Kuwait, awaiting deployment to Baghdad.

Two years later, Hoffman, 25, is a civilian on the lecture circuit, introducing himself as an Iraq Veteran Against the War. On March 19, when war opponents plan to converge near Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, N.C., to mark the date of the invasion, Hoffman, who co-founded the Iraq veterans group, will be one of the lead speakers.

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"It's not enough for us to say, 'Come to us'; we have to go to the people," Bennis said. "We have to convince people that the U.S. troops are the problem, not the solution. As long as they're there, they're providing the largest direct target and the largest indirect target. But it doesn't mean that pulling out the troops is the end of our obligation. We owe a huge debt to Iraq. We owe reparations."

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"We think that the war is an issue for politicians on all levels. . . . One thing we know is that the National Guard is disproportionately composed of police officers, EMTs, firefighters and other first responders," Richardson added. "Family and community structures are not set up for the kind of deployment that these people in the Guard are enduring. The idea of 18-month deployments, and now they're talking about two-year deployments, is devastating. . . . This is an underground impact of this war that is incredibly significant and needs to be discussed."

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OK, calling all Freepers, calling all Freepers we need to have folks at these rallies to show that there many American's support this war and our troops. We must NOT allow our troops to see this when they get a brief chance to get the news.

How horrible it would be fighting for your country and see the actions of those spoken in this article.

Outraged, yes I am ticked off again.

1 posted on 02/17/2005 10:08:39 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Isn't it kinda late in the game to still be protesting the war? I mean, now we're working on preparations for leaving. Even the nutty International Socialist Organization at the university has quit.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 10:11:30 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: Former Military Chick

they will still be protesting the war when the US troops leave in a decade.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 10:11:43 PM PST by GeronL (The Old Media is at war with the New Media...... We are all Matt Drudges now.)
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To: Former Military Chick

How can they find time to do this? Aren't they busy with their "US Out Of Japan" and "Leave Germany NOW!" rallies?


4 posted on 02/17/2005 10:18:42 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: Former Military Chick
Better to just let these DUmmies parade their lunacy for all to see.

What can we expect to see... "Bush is Hitler" sign, black anarchy tee shirts, dreadlocks, token B-grade "celebrity" on the soap box screaming hate-filled ad hominem attack on the President, Birkenstock sandals, token soldier-turned-Lefty trying to "get some" from a hippie chick by protesting, bongo drum and tamborine ensemble, stale chant of "Hey-ho, hey-ho, George Bush has got to go...", etc. etc. etc.

5 posted on 02/17/2005 10:19:14 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Former Military Chick

They want us to leave not because they care about the Iraqis - they don't: they know damn well that if we left now there would be massive killing, the democratically elected government would be overthrown and a Taliban like Islamist dictatorship would be put it place. No, they want us to leave because they want America to fail. America's sucess is what they fear most. They could give a damn about Iraq or America for that matter.


6 posted on 02/17/2005 10:22:53 PM PST by Avenger
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To: Former Military Chick
No.. I dont support sending people to such rallies and heckling those people (though they deserve it fully), for its too unbecoming of us. Personally, I'd never go to any such rally just to waste my time on those morons.

I'd rather spend my time in seminars on how to play my role as a responsible citizen in moulding public perception or in learning more about regimes that are threatening our country.

We should be more positive and action oriented. Liberals possibly cant fight al-qaeda or rogue regimes afterall and can only irritate us.

The battle with liberals is only for capturing the public perception, they dont even matter when it comes to anything else. They are too insignificant to even take note of.

I advise young conservatives to :

1. Think Iran and North Korea

2. Think how to mould public perception on :

(a) giving feds complete authority to interrogate prisoners
(b) developing and using tactile nuclear weaponry
(c) necessity of pre-emption

3. Ignore the liberals.

regards,
DX

7 posted on 02/17/2005 10:29:13 PM PST by DrampireXIV ("Salus populi suprema est lex"- The good of the people is the chief law)
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To: DTogo
Better to just let these DUmmies parade their lunacy for all to see.

What can we expect to see... "Bush is Hitler" sign, black anarchy tee shirts, dreadlocks, token B-grade "celebrity" on the soap box screaming hate-filled ad hominem attack on the President, Birkenstock sandals, token soldier-turned-Lefty trying to "get some" from a hippie chick by protesting, bongo drum and tamborine ensemble, stale chant of "Hey-ho, hey-ho, George Bush has got to go...", etc. etc. etc.


Some more of that hairy armpit naked protesting is good also. Also having signs that say "Bush is an Idiot" right next to signs claiming that Bush is the devious leader of an evil conspiracy to reinstate the third reich.

More, more, more, please. So true. I hope, hope, hope that they start doing that business where they block off traffic for hours and start throwing up on people's cars and on the sidewalk. That one was GREAT! They even keyed a few cars for good measure in that one. A tactic that is certain to get you supporters and votes.
8 posted on 02/17/2005 10:30:02 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Former Military Chick
"We have to convince people that the U.S. troops are the problem, not the solution.

Gee, and I thought you supported the troops!

Guess that mask didn't work for you, huh?

Keep talking. Keep saying garbage like this. Keep producing masses that look as though they stepped out of a Star Wars Bar scene. The American people will respond, perhaps just not as you wished.

9 posted on 02/17/2005 10:32:42 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Former Military Chick
Today Iraq is a democracy choosing its first Prime Minister by party secret ballot. Liberals are against this and the hypocrisy of opposing a War that made this possible is to my mind, sickening.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

10 posted on 02/17/2005 10:35:05 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Former Military Chick
"One thing we know is that the National Guard is disproportionately composed of police officers, EMTs, firefighters and other first responders," Richardson added.

Wow, the illogic there. You find it odd that those willing to risk their lives at the local level are more likely than the average, lazy citizen to risk their lives as well at the national level? Earth to Richardson, come in Richardson...

"Family and community structures are not set up for the kind of deployment that these people in the Guard are enduring. The idea of 18-month deployments, and now they're talking about two-year deployments, is devastating. . .

Cry me a river. Talk with some of the surviving crews from the 8th Army Air Force. This was a National Guard Army Air Force unit. They were deployed to the ETO and were responsible for the vast majority of the daylight raids into occupied Europe.

When they left, they knew they were in it for the long haul- til it was over not just 18 months. Then, the powers that be lowered that to 25 missions. The mighty 8th realized that meant you were probably gonna die, as the average was 20 missions before your bird was downed.

These "Nasty Guard" aircrews didn't shirk their responsibility. They carried on in the face of outrageous odds. And, due to their sacrifices and the sacrifices of the "Nasty Guard" Infantry divisions (alongside their brothers in the Regular Army), we are not speaking German.

11 posted on 02/17/2005 10:35:35 PM PST by joedelta (Those who long for peace must prepare for war)
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To: Arkinsaw
More, more, more, please. So true. I hope, hope, hope that they start doing that business where they block off traffic for hours and start throwing up on people's cars and on the sidewalk. That one was GREAT! They even keyed a few cars for good measure in that one. A tactic that is certain to get you supporters and votes.

Please don't wish that on folks who have family living on that base. I know you are being sarcastic but it does bug me somewhat to even joke messing up the paint on my sons car. He has already been assaulted once when trying to get on base while these idiots were protesting.

12 posted on 02/17/2005 10:40:40 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Avenger; Former Military Chick; DTogo; Soul Seeker; Darkwolf377; GeronL; Free and Armed
I think all of you young people should take note of this and ignore these liberal morons:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344601/posts

The threat posed by DPRK and the need to pre-empt it, along with Iran, should remain the topmost priority of this country for the next ten years.

warm regards,
DX

13 posted on 02/17/2005 10:42:50 PM PST by DrampireXIV ("Salus populi suprema est lex"- The good of the people is the chief law)
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To: Former Military Chick
Groups Preparing New Push Against Iraq War

Maybe they haven't heard we actually WON THE WAR!....Winning the peace has been a bit more difficult.

14 posted on 02/17/2005 10:52:49 PM PST by My2Cents (Fringe poster since 1998.)
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To: armymarinemom
Please don't wish that on folks who have family living on that base. I know you are being sarcastic but it does bug me somewhat to even joke messing up the paint on my sons car. He has already been assaulted once when trying to get on base while these idiots were protesting.

Actually, I'm not being sarcastic. Everytime these morons do what comes natural to them, they stay one step farther away from power.
15 posted on 02/17/2005 10:56:15 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: DrampireXIV

As I turn 40 in six months I am honored that you consider me a young people. :)


16 posted on 02/17/2005 11:21:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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They're irrelevant, there is no antiwar movement, all the radical left can do is send out a rally call that goes like this.....

"On March 19th we are calling all those who are against any and all issues to join us for a rally in Wash. DC. We don't care what you are Protesting, just come and explain it when you get here and pick out a protest sign that was provided by George Soros"

P.S. ....try not to look confused when C_Span points their Camera's at you just because you have no effin Idea why you're there :-)

17 posted on 02/17/2005 11:23:49 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Darkwolf377
"As I turn 40 in six months I am honored that you consider me a young people. :)"

of course, 40 is quite young :)

wishes,
DX

18 posted on 02/18/2005 12:15:14 AM PST by DrampireXIV ("Salus populi suprema est lex"- The good of the people is the chief law)
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To: Former Military Chick; TaxRelief

The D.C. Chapter of Free Republic is holding a rally in D.C. on March 19. We're waiting for our permit from the Park Service to make the formal announcement.


19 posted on 02/18/2005 5:03:57 AM PST by kristinn
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To: Former Military Chick

FRs were there last yr in good numbers, as well as Rolling Thunder and some folks that were just driving by and wanted to stop and help out. FR,s came from VA, MD, SC and FL that I met personally.

I will be there again this year and several NC FRs ( a noisey and active lot!)have plans on attending.

If I can offer a suggestion to the organizers... perhaps we need to contact as many conservative groups as possible for help...and military familiy groups...especially in NC.

If flyers are available I will pay for copies and hand them out all over Fayetteville!...contact me via FReepmail.

Perhaps Sean Hannity may want to show up!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 02/18/2005 5:14:59 AM PST by rrrod
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