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Ecstasy trials for combat stress
Guardian ^ | 2/17/05 | David Adam

Posted on 02/17/2005 7:37:17 PM PST by freedom44

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To: max_bshp

I thought that I read right here on FR sometime last yr that the Israeli Army is (or was?) giving their soldiers marijuana to help them cope w/ PTSD. That sounds very logical to me. It's been several months since I read the story, I wish I knew the details a lil bit further.


21 posted on 02/17/2005 9:06:57 PM PST by libertyman
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To: freedom44
The US food and drug administration has given the go-ahead for the soldiers to be included in an experiment to see if MDMA, the active ingredient in ecstasy, can treat post-traumatic stress disorder.

There's another four-letter acronym I would try before MDMA, namely EMDR, or Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. I wish I knew if it really works.

22 posted on 02/17/2005 9:51:00 PM PST by AZLiberty ("Insurgence" is futile. You will be eliminated.)
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To: freedom44

If it helps...good for them...do it.


23 posted on 02/17/2005 9:55:01 PM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: Hinckley; elfman2; libertyman
Unfortunatly I don't have a lot of data on this, mostly its anecdotal from military social workers here in Canada who say they have looked into this problem (PTSD is a huge problem with our military, I can only conclude that it must be an even larger problem with the US military because you guys do more deployments, although I think we may do more deployments per soldier due to smaller force numbers, once again no real data).

From my perspective it makes sense that MJ smoking can lessen the effects of PTSD, but like I said I really don't have any hard evidence to support the claim, just anecdotal. Of course that doesn't mean its not out there.

A quick search via google really only offered anecdotal evidence as well, I will attempt to try getting some sources for you from a friend if you're interested.

24 posted on 02/17/2005 10:17:23 PM PST by max_bshp
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To: max_bshp

Thanc for the reply. I'm already convinced that MJ works, & I'm speaking as one who knows personally. Now only if the government would accept the fact that it works & make it legal again!

BYW, things are (slowly but surely) lookin' pretty good as far as softening up on the personal use of marijuana in Canada & europe, aren't they???????


25 posted on 02/17/2005 10:28:38 PM PST by libertyman
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To: freedom44

I bet the same (or better) effect could be acheived by having the person run a hard 5 miles and then sit down for a session of therapy. Better yet, just keeping running and afterwards take a swim in the ocean and skip the therapy altogether.


26 posted on 02/17/2005 10:38:18 PM PST by Avenger
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To: libertyman
well from what I have heard its not likely to soften up any time soon, the gubment isn't likely to introduce decriminalization bills any time soon as they are a minority.

Mostly its a matter of most cops just not enforcing small use or just confiscating the MJ from people on the street they catch, and decriminalization is just that, decriminalized, its still illegal, just that the penalty for breaking the law will be lessened.

As for myself I stopped using about a year ago (it was making me stupid and I really can't afford to get any dumber!)

27 posted on 02/17/2005 10:47:53 PM PST by max_bshp
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To: libertyman

"I'm already convinced that MJ works, & I'm speaking as one who knows personally."

Were you in combat?


28 posted on 02/17/2005 10:51:47 PM PST by Avenger
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29 posted on 02/17/2005 10:52:45 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: max_bshp

LOL...well, as long as the police focus their efforts on fighting REAL crime rather than wasting their time, blood, & $ against pot smokers, @ least that's an improvement.


30 posted on 02/17/2005 10:53:25 PM PST by libertyman
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To: robertpaulsen

what do you think about this one ?


31 posted on 02/17/2005 10:58:21 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: Avenger

No, unfortuneately, I was not allowed the privilege of serving my country. One if the 1st things I did after graduating high school in 1980 was go to the recruiting office for the US Air Force...& when they found out that I have epilepsy, they said "thanks, but no thanks". I was nearly heart-broken!


32 posted on 02/17/2005 11:03:18 PM PST by libertyman
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To: libertyman

Well, your willingness is commendable.


34 posted on 02/17/2005 11:06:37 PM PST by Avenger
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To: Combiner

Truth hurts, doesn't it????? The Libertarians are RIGHT (again!).


36 posted on 02/17/2005 11:12:16 PM PST by libertyman
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To: Avenger

Thank you....but I wish they would have allowed me to serve in SOME manner. I woulda done just fine!


38 posted on 02/17/2005 11:14:29 PM PST by libertyman
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To: Combiner

I guess you musta missed the post that I asked earlier this evening (#21). That post may have been the one that moved the subject over to pot a lil, but they are related in that they are both discussing PTSD.

Neither you nor I know yet whether the use of MDMA to help treat PTSD is "insane". Like I said in an even earlier post on this thread, let's wait 'til the clinical trials are done to find out the answer. We'll never know if we don't @ least try to learn about it, will we?


39 posted on 02/17/2005 11:24:11 PM PST by libertyman
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