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Georgia federal judge: Textbook stickers stating evolution is a theory not fact is unconstitutional.
Center For Reclaiming America ^

Posted on 02/17/2005 5:30:03 PM PST by Happy2BMe

News Alert:
On January 13, a federal judge in Georgia ruled that stickers placed in textbooks of an Atlanta area school district saying “Evolution is a theory, not a fact” are unconstitutional! ( View sticker.) According to this judge, such criticisms of evolution are an endorsement of religion. The judge’s action is the latest example of the nationwide effort to ban any critical analysis of the theory of evolution and insist that evolution be taught as the only option!

The Action:
The Center for Reclaiming America has launched a national petition to rally 100,000 citizens immediately to oppose this federal court edict and insist that evolution be taught as a theory, not fact, in our schools. The “Our Kids Deserve The Truth” petition has three goals:

  1. INSIST that evolution be taught as a theory, not a fact.
  2. DEFEND school administrators, teachers, parents and students that stand up for truthful teaching about evolution.
  3. SUPPORT legislative and school board efforts to ensure that our kids are taught the truth about evolution and promote

    Objective Origins in school curriculum.

We are also launching a national awareness campaign targeting millions with the “Our Kids Deserve the Truth” message. Also, through this grassroots effort, we want to empower citizens with the resources they need to effectively challenge school boards—leading them to adopt the Objective Origins curriculum.
 


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: atheism; christianity; crevolist; education; evolution; federaljudge; howhowhowhow; liberal; textbooks
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To: From many - one.
What's your take on their motivations?

"I submit that such people are not here to learn anything, but are in fact interested in quite the opposite. I submit they are here to interfere with the dissemination of scientific knowledge that they find offensive. They don't want other people to ask the experts questions and learn from them; no, they are hear to attack the experts and cast doubt upon their wisdom, in the desperate hope that others will turn away and not listen to them.
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301 posted on 02/18/2005 2:01:36 PM PST by longshadow
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To: RadioAstronomer
All I can say (words fail me) is thank you so very much for your post.

No charge....

;-)

302 posted on 02/18/2005 2:03:33 PM PST by longshadow
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To: From many - one.
What's your take on their motivations?

As an old adage put it, "an opium addict fears the wind more than a tiger--it will put out the flame that lights his pipe."

303 posted on 02/18/2005 2:05:42 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666; longshadow

The motivation was described in awesome detail by Rand. She has entire essays on the anti-rational mentality, which in her experience was usually associated with the left. I wish she could have seen some of our disussions with people who call themselves conservatives, but who have the idential mindset.


304 posted on 02/18/2005 2:14:29 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: From many - one.
What's your take on their motivations?

Becoming a "militant" anything enables you to act badly in public, filter information selectively, and generally act in a way indistinguishable from a paranoid schizophrenic with an impenetrable delusional system.

305 posted on 02/18/2005 2:24:15 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: longshadow; VadeRetro; balrog666; PatrickHenry

I'm groping here.

They claim a religious orientation, but there seems to be dishonesty.

I follow the addiction analogy...there is a fear of loss.

The Ayn Rand anti-rational personality I'm not sure. Why be anti-rational. Would that be a fear protection also?

Even the fanatic = permission to misrepresent..why the need to be a fanatic?

I want to clarify that I know there are those, who, as an act of Faith, believe in Creation and that evolution therefore cannot be true. I have no problem with that at all. They don't misrepresent or obfuscate.


306 posted on 02/18/2005 2:47:38 PM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: VadeRetro

Sorry. In my response I said fanatic and you had said militant. I tend to equate the two.


307 posted on 02/18/2005 2:52:53 PM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: From many - one.
"Fanatic," "militant," yeah!

Why join? A need to belong. The thrill of being righteous. The chance to act out pack behaviors on some terrified victim who has strayed to the wrong part of town.

Maybe you weren't cool before. Now you can be cool. You're a secret agent for good against the Evil Dumb people. (There's generally a conspiracy of Evil Dumb People opposing the cause.) No matter what you have to do to win, all the good people on your side already know you're doing the right thing. That's not even at issue.

Best of all, because you're allowed to filter your inputs to keep out all the propaganda from the Evil Dumb side, you never have to face being wrong.

It basically is a delusional shell comparable to a mild psychosis. Nothing's perfect, but the people who hide within such a thing in the first place for any length of time tend to get pretty comfortable in there. I don't think that many of them are reachable.

308 posted on 02/18/2005 3:04:13 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

Does "delusional shell" have a technical meaning? It's a very evocative phrase.


309 posted on 02/18/2005 3:13:49 PM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: From many - one.
Does "delusional shell" have a technical meaning? It's a very evocative phrase.

No, the proper term in Abby Normal Psych. is "delusional system," IIRC from 35 years ago. But it's a shell around your consciousness, yes.

310 posted on 02/18/2005 3:23:51 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: longshadow

PING!


311 posted on 02/18/2005 4:39:45 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: PatrickHenry; donh

" John Bingham, the principal framer of the Amendment. Bingham stated many times that the Fourteenth Amendment would enforce the Bill of Rights against state governments."

I have no problem with the Bill of Rights applying to the States.

How do they get around the "Congress shall make no law" clause?

But even if they apply it to state legislatures it would give religion more protection not less. It should allow more teaching of religion in schools not less.

I just don't see the logic.


312 posted on 02/18/2005 4:44:25 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: hosepipe

Humans did not evolve from monkeys.

Define devolution. I don't think it exists.

Try to provide evidence for your opinions, otherwise people will just ignore you, like I should have.

Would you like a nice aluminum hat?


313 posted on 02/18/2005 4:46:36 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: longshadow

What I find amusing is their theology is less than their science and they have no science at all.


314 posted on 02/18/2005 4:47:53 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Do you have a name or link to some of the essays you mentioned?


315 posted on 02/18/2005 4:52:44 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: VadeRetro

I have some training in Abnormal Pyschology. I do see some similarities between the rigid mindsets of seriously disturbed people and some of the anti-evolution posters.


316 posted on 02/18/2005 4:54:33 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi

Try AynRand.org


317 posted on 02/18/2005 4:57:51 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: From many - one.

"They claim a religious orientation, but there seems to be dishonesty"

This is one of the main aspects that troubles me. You know that a committed Christian should have a clear mind and be able to face reality without fear. A Christian should be able to live a life of joy, whatever the circumstances.

Since I don't find any problem with believing God is the Creator and evolution is a fact, it seems to be a more secure faith involved that allows rationality. So the idea that fear is involved in the literalist view has merit.


318 posted on 02/18/2005 4:58:17 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
[ Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Define devolution. I don't think it exists. ]

You missed my humor as I missed your seriousness.., we're even..
I'm cut to the quick you didn't take me seriously..
really!...
No......really...

319 posted on 02/18/2005 6:31:05 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: RadioAstronomer

So something goes straight from hypothesis to Law then? How did Newton's Laws of motion for example, come to be considered Laws and not merely a theory of motion?


320 posted on 02/18/2005 9:23:52 PM PST by Ahban
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