[Mad Mammoth]

Karl Rove is not the genius he's made out to be.

Oh you are so right buddy-roe. Look at how Bob Schrum shredded Rove last November, eh? President Kerry doesn't know how lucky he is that Rove was running the GWB campaign eh? Heh.

[wartman]

Perhaps if you read my post you could respond with an intelligent answer.

I recognized that Karl Rove has had success, but the rightward shift of the electorate is not a result of his planning....his success is a result of the slightly rightward shift of the people in this country.