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To: Mad Mammoth

Perhaps if you read my post you could respond with an intelligent answer.

I recognized that Karl Rove has had success, but the rightward shift of the electorate is not a result of his planning....his success is a result of the slightly rightward shift of the people in this country.


11 posted on 02/17/2005 4:19:08 PM PST by wartman
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To: wartman
Karl Rove is not the genius he's made out to be.

Now let's consider this for a minute. Your comments suggest that Rove is nothing but some lucky bum who happened to be in the right place at the right time. That is the same flawed logic employed by the liberal/left unintelligentsia to try and 'prove' that Ronald Reagan wasn't responsible for the West winning the Cold War, oh no, he was 'just in the right place at the right time' according to the revisionists who cannot STAND the idea that Reagan in fact changed the entire equation, politically, socially, economically and strategically on a global scale. Reagan correctly analyzed what was happening at home and abroad, and he not only acted upon his accurate observations, he was able to influence events for a favorable outcome for America, for the world, and for himself politically. George W. Bush (and Karl Rove) are no different. They are master politicians, and even Emperor Billigula admitted that Bush was one helluva politician. But great politicians go nowhere unless they have surrounded themselves with people who not only think as they do, but are capable of 'making things happen'. Rove is a mover and shaker, don't delude yourself otherwise.

He is a product of the luck of the times in which he is working. He's a product of the move to the right, not the cause of the shift.

Rove didn't change his beliefs to adapt to that 'move to the right' you speak of. And nobody has suggested that the political winds shifted all because of Karl Rove. That assertion is just a straw man you constructed. Why, we can only speculate.

Now as for you thinking my answer wasn't 'intelligent' enough for your liking, try this on for size:

I submit to you my illustrious college Freeper, that Karl Rove IS a freakin' genius, because it takes a genius to successfully direct and manage political operations and campaigns that result in your boss (meaning the President in this case) being not only re-elected, but increasing his strength across the board, Senate, House, Governorships, etc. Now one can look at the failure of the '92 Bush-I campaign and point to any number of reasons why GHWB didn't win that second term, but a prime reason which is seldom spoken of is the fact that in that crucial '92 election, a political genius that had guided the Bush/Quayle campaign to it's '88 win died way too soon, in March '91 from cancer. The genius' name?

Lee Atwater (Rest In Peace my friend!)

Believe this my FRiend, Karl Rove IS the second coming of Lee Atwater.

So how do ya like me NOW?!? LOL :)
12 posted on 02/17/2005 5:01:11 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: wartman
I recognized that Karl Rove has had success, but the rightward shift of the electorate is not a result of his planning....his success is a result of the slightly rightward shift of the people in this country.

While there has been a rightward shift of the electorate as a whole, it doesn't mean anything unless you can capitalize on it. Rove is the first Republican strategist in a long time to beat the Democrats in their turn-out-the-vote efforts.

19 posted on 02/18/2005 5:09:34 AM PST by ContraryMary
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