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To: RaceBannon

"It is difficult to imagine that such thinking can be spiritually discerned when its component parts deviate so dramatically from what the Bible clearly teaches regarding Israel."

This argument of yours begs the question. You assume that the State of Israel is indeed the continuation of Old Testament Judaism. If fact, both the biological connection and religious connection are very tenuous. The Romans exterminated almost the entire Jewish population of Palestine on two occasions -- once in A.D. 70 and again in A.D. 140, when the Romans put down Jewish revolts. The Jews of today are largely descendants of gentile converts.

Furthermore, the Jewish religion of today is not the Judaism of the Bible. It is a new religion which goes by the same name.

God only knows who are the biological descendants of Abraham today. There is no identifiable ethnic group which corresponds to the Old Testament Hebrews.


178 posted on 02/20/2005 11:56:10 AM PST by SausageDog
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'Ping' on this thread. Good solid arguments against Replacement Theology by our own RaceBannon on this thread. Read through it and save the links.

Good work, RaceBannon!





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182 posted on 02/20/2005 1:09:10 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: SausageDog
You assume that the State of Israel is indeed the continuation of Old Testament Judaism. If fact, both the biological connection and religious connection are very tenuous.

The religion may be or not be, but the blood line surely is, for Jews were a segregated people since their beginning, and history has proven that.

There may be more people who have abandoned their Jewish heritage because of persecution, I will grant that, but there were plenty who did NOT abandon their religion through those persecutions, they remained religiously and genetically Jewish.

I am English, Irish, Dutch and German by decent, there is no pure blood in me past 4 generations or more after that, my family might be more English than Irish, but my Irish side came from England centuries before they left Belfast!

My Dutch side came from Germany, so, where did they come from before that?

The Jews may have differing national origin of where they emigrated from, but who did they marry? THEY ALWAYS MARRIED JEWS...unless they are the ones who recanted under pressure and persecution.

192 posted on 02/20/2005 7:18:52 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: SausageDog
You assume that the State of Israel is indeed the continuation of Old Testament Judaism. If fact, both the biological connection and religious connection are very tenuous. The Romans exterminated almost the entire Jewish population of Palestine on two occasions -- once in A.D. 70 and again in A.D. 140, when the Romans put down Jewish revolts. The Jews of today are largely descendants of gentile converts.
Sorry, but your history is quite wrong. The population of Judea was decimated, but hardly ended in 70 and 135. By then, there was already a very large Jewish population in Egypt, Cyrenica, Mesopatamia, Persia, and Asia Minor.
Genetic studies of Jews show a very high commonality between European Jews and Middle Eastern Jews, and that they are both closer to Kurds and Samaritans than anyone else.

Furthermore, the Jewish religion of today is not the Judaism of the Bible. It is a new religion which goes by the same name.
Please explain.

God only knows who are the biological descendants of Abraham today. There is no identifiable ethnic group which corresponds to the Old Testament Hebrews.
Have you completely missed genetic studies of Jews?
http://www.med.nyu.edu/genetics/research/jewish_origins.html
The Y-chromosome studies of Kohens across continents is rather conclusive.

210 posted on 02/22/2005 12:11:53 AM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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