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Mark Steyn: Death of a salesman
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 02/19/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/17/2005 7:50:53 AM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 02/17/2005 7:50:53 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

Steyn ping!


2 posted on 02/17/2005 7:52:24 AM PST by Pokey78 (11/02/04: The death of Zogby's "sterling" reputation.)
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Steyn should try to emulate me and be less well read. That way he would have only read Miller's "Death of Salesman" and could agree uncritically with all the critical acclaim.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 8:10:02 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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4 posted on 02/17/2005 8:12:14 AM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Pokey78
And there are few surer get-rich-quick schemes than a savage indictment of the cheap hucksterism at the heart of the American Dream.

Even if you’re disappointed that a Steyn article is more theater review than Eurinal bashing, that line alone is worth the price of admission.

5 posted on 02/17/2005 8:12:57 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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>> "He wasn’t amiable enough to be an amiable dunce" <<

SMACK!!!!!


6 posted on 02/17/2005 8:13:06 AM PST by sd-joe
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To: Pokey78

Incisive, well-written and right. As always. Go Steyn!


7 posted on 02/17/2005 8:13:45 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: dead

I just want to know why people read stuff like Death of a Salesman.

There's enough gloom in the world through the news without adding to it through literature.

I don't want to read or listen to a gloomy story. If I'm giving my time to something, it has to be optimistic and in some way positive.

Why all this focus on gloom and tragedy in literature -- and in literature classes?

I can't think of something surer to turn off students than gloom.

It sure turned me off when I was required to study literature.

D


8 posted on 02/17/2005 8:13:58 AM PST by daviddennis (;)
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I just want to know why people read stuff like Death of a Salesman.

Because it is beautifully written and heart wrenching. A bit cornball in parts, but it also really lets good actors show their stuff.

Yeah, it's depressing, but my life is so damn happy, I need a bit of maudlin gloom to wipe that idiotic smile off my face now and then.

9 posted on 02/17/2005 8:18:50 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Pokey78

Mark Steyn was on the Laura Ingraham radio show last week, which was the first time I had ever heard his voice. What a funny and sharp guy he is, even off the cuff like that.

Loved hearing his voice, which is similar to Christopher Hitchens', just not quite as deep. I knew he was a Brit, but somehow didn't expect the rather cultivated accent he has. In fact, it's a very cultivated accent, now that I think of it.

I hope she has him on again. He should go on other programs too, maybe he has and I've just missed him till now.


10 posted on 02/17/2005 8:19:29 AM PST by texasbluebell
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But, as Noël Coward might have observed after visiting the Arthur Miller Centre for Sad Hollow Indictments, ‘Very flat, Norwich.’

BWAHAHAHAHA!

If I have to read "plays," give me Oscar Wilde.

11 posted on 02/17/2005 8:22:40 AM PST by Tax-chick (It's Monday again here. How are things there?)
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To: texasbluebell

Actually, he is a Canadian.

Weird huh?

Cheers,

knews hound


12 posted on 02/17/2005 8:23:50 AM PST by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: Pokey78
He wasn’t amiable enough to be an amiable dunce but he was the most useful of the useful idiots.

Another great Steyn! And I know that's redundant. Production of his plays will dwindle with time. Over-rated doesn't begin to say it!

13 posted on 02/17/2005 8:24:24 AM PST by Rummyfan
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Many people have pointed out the obvious flaw — that there were no witches, whereas there were certainly communists. For one thing, they were gobbling up a lot of real estate: they seized Poland in 1945, Bulgaria in ’46, Hungary and Romania in ’47, Czechoslavakia in ’48, China in ’49; they very nearly grabbed Greece and Italy; they were the main influence on the nationalist movements of Africa and Asia. Imagine the Massachusetts witch trials if the witches were running Virginia, New York and New Hampshire, and you might have a working allegory.

It is rare that I have anything critical to say about Steyn, but he missed the mark here. The relevant analogy is not whether there were witches in NY and communists in Romania. The relevent analogy is that there were not witches in MA, and there were Communists in Washington.

14 posted on 02/17/2005 8:29:18 AM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: knews_hound

Well, I thought I heard once that he was Canadian, but this accent was so British. I didn't think Canadians had such a pronounced British sound. Guess I'm wrong.


15 posted on 02/17/2005 8:33:44 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: dead

That's a theme Michael Moore profitably employed.

Luckily, not all American hucksters are self-hating, self-worshipping narcissists.


16 posted on 02/17/2005 8:34:09 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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Miller "framed" the left's views/lies and dumped them on an innocent nation. The old trick is the new trick as dems dust off this ugly totalitarian tactic.

His genius was to give his fellow lefties what’s become their most cherished article of faith — that any kind of urgent national defence is, by definition, paranoid and hysterical. It was untrue in the Fifties and it’s untrue today. Indeed, the hysteria about hysteria — the ‘criminalisation’ of ‘dissent’ — is far more hysterical than the hysteria about Reds.

17 posted on 02/17/2005 8:35:39 AM PST by GOPJ (Troll post:...when everything sounds like a lefty view of the Right)
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To: dead

Right on, as usual, Mr. Steyn. Anti-Americanism always sells well with the "hate America" crowd on both our coasts, so Mr. Miller, who parlayed his so-so talent and early hits into a cash cow, was quite a shrewd salesman.


18 posted on 02/17/2005 8:36:01 AM PST by kittymyrib
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I must have missed it. The last great idea the Left had was in the 30s. And contrary to the lament of Arthur Miller's famous character, capitalism is alive and well. That's news to those who really need to sit up and pay attention.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

19 posted on 02/17/2005 8:37:57 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I always get Normal Lear and Arthur Miller confused. I have trouble keeping all of the "entertainer" commies seperated.


20 posted on 02/17/2005 8:39:00 AM PST by Durus
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