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CA: Big Five, Big Mistake
CaliforniaRepublic.org ^ | 2/16/05 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 02/16/2005 11:02:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Of all the factors contributing to California’s fiscal woes, one of the most fundamental and pervasive is the collapse of the constitutional process by which the state budget is developed in the first place.

Ever since the Magna Carta, it has been a settled principle of governance that the authority that requests funds should not be the same one that approves them.

This is the heart of our separation of powers, and the most important single mechanism to check the excesses and abuses that occur whenever mere mortals are spending other people’s money.

Following this principle, California’s constitution sets forth a precise procedure for adopting an annual spending plan. As chief executive of the state, the governor submits his request for funds on January 10th of each year. Once he has done so, it is exclusively the legislature’s responsibility to review his request meticulously, openly and independently. On June 15th, the legislature is required to return the budget to the governor, who then re-enters the constitutional process by exercising his power to reduce or eliminate any item that he believes is excessive, checked once again by the legislature’s authority to override vetoes.

During this five-month period of independent legislative consideration, subcommittees that specialize in specific areas of the budget are supposed to revise it item-by-item, while the public is afforded direct input into the expenditure of their money. The subcommittees then deliver their work to the budget committees of each house, which, in turn address the over-arching questions of state finance.

Thus refined, the budget is then debated, amended, and finalized in both houses where all legislators are accorded a voice and a vote on behalf of their constituents. Once each house has independently acted on the budget, a conference committee is convened to resolve the differences between the two houses before the final budget is ratified and returned to the governor.

Over the past 15 years, this constitutional review has been gradually replaced with an extra-constitutional device called the “Big Five,” consisting of the governor and the four legislative leaders.

Last year, the legislature’s consideration of the budget literally collapsed at the subcommittee level with neither house even producing a version of its own. Rather, all significant issues were deferred to the “Big Five,” which met behind closed doors, agreed to a budget, and then delivered it to the legislature for a take-it-or-leave-it vote without public input or serious deliberation.

This brave new system of budgeting short-circuits the checks and balances that have evolved over centuries of legislative practice. The executive not only requests the funds, but also becomes part of the quinquevirate that approves them. By entering the budget negotiations, the governor surrenders his line item veto in deference to the settlement to which he is a party. Instead of the incisive critique by the Legislative Analyst’s Office, the final spending plan is often pieced together with wildly unrealistic assumptions that are exposed only after the budget is adopted.

The “Big Five” began replacing the constitutional structure about the same time that term limits took effect. Before term limits, the legislature had a much stronger institutional identity and tradition that made the surrender of basic constitutional prerogatives unthinkable. Term limits removed that stability and we must now look to other devices to restore it without impeding the free and necessary communication between the executive and legislative branches.

One solution would be a series of internal deadlines for each house to complete each stage of its deliberations. These deadlines could be naturally enhanced by restoring the majority vote for adoption of the budget (the practice in 47 other states) and naturally enforced by prescribing certain budgetary defaults in the event a house fails to act.

This would compel timely progress in advance of the June 15th deadline and remove the “Big Five” as a crucible for drafting the budget at the back end.

In his State of the State Address, Gov. Schwarzenegger recognized that there is something fundamentally wrong with a system that produces chronically late and unbalanced spending plans, and there are many reforms that would help. But the most obvious one is to restore the constitutional process that had produced reasonably balanced and reasonably punctual state budgets for 140 years.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: big; bigfive; calbuget; california; mcclintock; mistake; tommcclintock
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1 posted on 02/16/2005 11:02:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Kalifornia = MEXIFORNIA!


2 posted on 02/16/2005 11:02:58 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: HMFIC

I'm sure our great Gov. will fix this problem also, just like he's fixed our "spending problem" that he bloviated on and on about during the recall election. ;->


3 posted on 02/16/2005 11:04:32 AM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: HMFIC
Kalifornia = MEXIFORNIA!

Racist, conservative pig! :) Hehe

Denote sarcasm!

4 posted on 02/16/2005 11:04:44 AM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: writer33

Sorry, forgot my add-on.

</sarc>


5 posted on 02/16/2005 11:05:52 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: NormsRevenge
One solution would be a series of internal deadlines

Another solution is to remove the pay and per-diem of the legislature and their staff, when a budget is not produced on time and in accordance with the constitution.

6 posted on 02/16/2005 11:05:52 AM PST by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: NormsRevenge

I applaud the common sense of McClintock.


7 posted on 02/16/2005 11:06:47 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (Warning: Not being an open-borders RINO can be dangerous to your FR health.)
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To: HMFIC

I know. That's why I was teasing you. :)


8 posted on 02/16/2005 11:06:48 AM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: writer33

No sweat. I'm old school and dig it when idiots suffer from their own stupidity. Kalifornia panders to every one and every thing, can't stop spending, can't stop the illegals, raise taxes so that corporations LEAVE the state (my sister took her business to AZ!), and then whine when the poopy hits the fan.

Sucks to be them.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 11:10:30 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: HMFIC
Sucks to be them jealous are we?
10 posted on 02/16/2005 11:11:59 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: HMFIC

It appears it does suck to be them. Of course I'm one of their next door neighbors. Businesses can come on down to Nevada. We'll take 'em.


11 posted on 02/16/2005 11:17:07 AM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: StoneColdGOP
I applaud the common sense of McClintock.

Ditto that. :-)

12 posted on 02/16/2005 11:18:07 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: All
Already posted here.
13 posted on 02/16/2005 11:19:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: writer33
Businesses can come on down to Nevada I was in Vegas this summer it was 118 degrees - that sucks
14 posted on 02/16/2005 11:20:07 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: HMFIC

Please clarify your "idiots" and "stupidity" statements. Your generalizations show how asinine your anti CA bias is and how shallow your comments are.

Yeah I guess it sucks to be me. I'm employed by a large corp. that pays me well, I have a roof over my head, food on the table, clothes on my back, and money left over to save. I don't go around bitching about other states' problems as you are so inclined to do and then make demeaning statements about the folks who live here. Just because you lived here long ago, does not give you a say in how things are going here now. We're fighting our collective asses off to beat measures and stupidity at every turn. Last I checked, I heard no whining from Pubbies here in CA.

If you feel this way about "all Kalifornians", then shame, if you don't, then put a little more thought into your posts next time.


15 posted on 02/16/2005 11:24:32 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: SZonian; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; calcowgirl

Way to wackamole!!! I support you demands of this poster and if sheheit doesn't comply immediately, I'll call on the enforcer of that sentiment... ElkGroveDan!!! (Not that I really think your excellent reply actually needed any help from anyone)


16 posted on 02/16/2005 11:44:02 AM PST by SierraWasp (EnviroDems are against everything! Especially if it involves productive American's fun or profit!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Thanks, I called on OrangeDaisy to clarify a comment she made on another post as well. She meant no harm. I'm just getting damn tired of people posting stupid comments about Californians in general, as if there were no one else here but dims.

Cheers!


17 posted on 02/16/2005 11:55:02 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: SierraWasp; HMFIC; SZonian; ElkGroveDan
Well, I think some could benefit from Dan's past posts. This one is a keeper!
Calif. Republicans rallying on Schwarzenegger agenda
 
Posted by ElkGroveDan to Viking2002
On News/Activism 02/13/2005 10:10:19 AM PST · 200 of 263

in that Godforsaken state,

Do me a favor and cut that crap. You don't know the first thing about California politics. It wouldn't be fair for me to tell you to sell your banjo and take your cousin and buy some shoes for the kids you had with her. Likewise it is not fair for you to watch a few political stories from San Francisco and claim to be able to judge life in the state that is the jewel of this great nation. 

There are a million MORE more Republicans in California than there are PEOPLE in Alabama. In the last election more people voted for Bush in California than in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina COMBINED. 

While the country was all talking about the new trend for marriage between a man and a woman this year. California approved it's marriage protection act 4 years ago, by 62%. 

Now please. Wait until you know what you are talking about before you make any more ignorant pronouncements.

 


18 posted on 02/16/2005 12:09:26 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: SZonian
I battle them all the time with their narrow minded intolerant BS.....they generalize to the whole state when any news comes out.....Most of us in Calif don't diss an entire state just cause something wacky happens there but most are really latently jealous or such.....I really believe that since Calif despite it's politics has lead the nation in so many more categories than most states combined. Calif is like a nation in and of itself....bash our politicians as we Repubs do, but they should lay off the entire state........it just shows their ignorance
19 posted on 02/16/2005 12:31:39 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: calcowgirl
thanks for posting......we can battle each other in Calif and we do....but out of stater's who most have never been here have no clue as to what Calif is all about.....I would love to blame entire states for their politicians but being from Calif am just too intelligent and tolerant to indulge in that kind of shallow ridiculousness........
20 posted on 02/16/2005 12:34:23 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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