Maybe Molly Wood but would you?
1 posted on
02/16/2005 10:38:24 AM PST by
decimon
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To: decimon
IE having tabbed browsing and other Firefox features?
I seem to remember the MS cheerleaders here saying that OSS doesn't innovate, only copy proprietary software. Well lookee here....
To: All
But it's a chore sometimes, what with most sites using that pesky nonstandard IE code. Not everything renders properly, and some sites just plain don't work--I have to load up IE to use them. Plus, let's be honest--Firefox has its flaws. Why is there no way to check for updates from within the browser, for one thing? Why does it take so doggone long to launch? Why, why must it crash every single time I open a PDF? I mean, every single time. I've been using Firefox for months now and I've not run into these problems that this woman obviously has. You can check for updates within the browser. She makes it sound like it takes forever for it to launch when it takes about as long to load as IE or Netscape. And I've never had a problem with it crashing "every single time" when opening a PDF file. Firefox is great because it isn't nearly as vunerable to spyware, adware or overall CRAPware as IE. It isn't perfect but I expect it to get better and better. I may get IE7, just to check it out but it will probably be dogged with the same problems that cause me to use Firefox in the first place.
40 posted on
02/16/2005 11:00:11 AM PST by
Sister_T
(Those who preach tolerance and love, practice it THE LEAST!!)
To: decimon
45 posted on
02/16/2005 11:03:29 AM PST by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: decimon
In the last 2 weeks my Firefox has started to become vulnerable to some popups and lockups. I believe it may be related to my Ad-Watch monitor from Lavasoft. It was only a matter of time though. The Internet advertisers started to realize that some of us were missing out on their wonderful offerings and retooled for Mozilla.
52 posted on
02/16/2005 11:12:12 AM PST by
BallyBill
(I'm a God fearing man and with many I stand....)
To: decimon
Why, why must it crash every single time I open a PDF? I mean, every single time.I had this problem until I got rid of Acrobat Reader 6.X and reinstalled Version 5.0. Acrobat 6.X is a real POS.
To: decimon
It's too clunky, and I was raised on IE. Meaning she's been using computers for -- what? 15, 20 minutes?
56 posted on
02/16/2005 11:15:38 AM PST by
prion
(Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
To: decimon
"Why, why must it crash every single time I open a PDF? I mean, every single time."
WHA?!
Honey, buy yourself a real computer or upgrade your RAM.
57 posted on
02/16/2005 11:19:09 AM PST by
blues_guitarist
(Black conservatives arise!)
To: decimon
So, if anyone out there is tired of the problems that occur with IE6, don't change your browser. Don't change to Firefox, because the vaporware ...er ... new Explorer will be out any moment, and MS is gonna fix all that. Any minute now. Really soon. Really.
I mean it.
59 posted on
02/16/2005 11:21:28 AM PST by
LexBaird
("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
To: decimon
considered what IE is based on:"Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign." I don't think old bill is going to make much improvement.
To: decimon
I am using Firefox, and it is so much more stable and free of Pop-ups than IE.
63 posted on
02/16/2005 11:24:41 AM PST by
Plutarch
To: decimon
I can't figger out what "tabbed browsing" really is. Can someone PLEASE explain it to me & tell me how it works?
Is this only on Firefox (or is it called Mozilla instead)?
Thank you.
To: decimon
If IE 7.0 is as closely immersed in the OS as previous versions are, then the same basic problem with IE will still exist. The browser is allowed to do too many things; too many dangerous things. Firefox is a superior product and will continue to grow because it's just a browser. It doesn't try to be the Swiss Army Knife of the software market.
77 posted on
02/16/2005 11:47:18 AM PST by
Redcloak
(More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
To: decimon
I'll never go back to IE. I've persuaded about a dozen other people to abandon IE as well. I really don't expect them to go back either. I use Firefox on my PCs and Safari on my Mac. I'm more than happy with both.
79 posted on
02/16/2005 11:47:38 AM PST by
JCEccles
To: decimon
I've been using Mozilla/Firefox for the past three years now. It has come a long, long way in that time, even in the past six months. I cut over to using Firefox as my primary browser in mid-2003, after having to rebuild an XP machine that had been infected through IE and past Norton Antivirus -- and then, because IE no longer worked, Norton wouldn't update because Norton uses the "embedded" IE.
Every single claim that Wood makes hasn't been true for at least a year and a half now. As for interoperability, I have yet to find a site which doesn't work, and I'm a very heavy web user. The last holdout for me was a bank website, which simily wouldn't accept any browser except IE -- so I told Firefox to fib and claim it was IE, and the site worked just fine.
IE7? Sure, just like Windows 98 "improved" Windows 95 -- man, one of the happiest days in my life was when Win98 exited my home....
89 posted on
02/16/2005 12:05:07 PM PST by
HolgerDansk
("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
To: decimon
Why does it take so doggone long to launch? Why, why must it crash every single time I open a PDF? I mean, every single time.
That problem isn't Firefox, that problem is Adobe Acrobat/Reader.
Since ver 5, Adobe has had problems. I used to use the Acrobat for 5. Its reader would hang every time I openened it in IE. Ver 6 did the same. Even after opening the Acrobat, it would not close without hanging. Older Adobe Reader versions don't have the problem.
91 posted on
02/16/2005 12:11:37 PM PST by
TomGuy
(America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
To: decimon
If a standalone IE 7 is even 50 percent more secure than current versions, the Firefox rebellion is finished.
Wrong-o. IE would have to offer something more than it currently does.
If IE 7 has tabs... IE has many shortcomings. What about text to speech capabilities? Competitors already offer that.
94 posted on
02/16/2005 12:15:31 PM PST by
TomGuy
(America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
To: decimon
And just what kind of horrific pain did Molly Moron go through when Big Brother XP hit the shelves?
If I ran Cnet I'd be very suspicious of having someone so damned lazy, a child with the "are we there yet?" mentality, on my payroll.
There's a couple of IE looking skins available to help ease the Hellish torment of transition.
(The flag background I learned how to add much later, and here I am to tell the tale, ain't that sumpin'?) ![](http://discussions.virtualdr.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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97 posted on
02/16/2005 12:31:00 PM PST by
JoJo Gunn
(More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
To: decimon
For those of you too nostalgic for your IE, this is for you.
First install Firefox. www.getfirefox.com
Then go here and install the IE5.0 theme. Your browser will look IDENTICAL to Internet Explorer but you will have all of the awesome features and security of Firefox!
http://mozfly.sitesled.com/
To: decimon
I have Firefoz, IE & Netscape installed because I have to check things for clients and need to be using whatever they are using. Almost no one uses Netscape. I switched my mail account to Firefoxs Thunderbird, but I have not noticed any difference.
114 posted on
02/16/2005 1:14:19 PM PST by
Feiny
( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
To: decimon
Internet Destroyer blows. Firefox is OK but not great. I do like the "View Selection Source" option, and use it for copying articles with embedded links but without surrounding ads for posting on FR. Opera (through about v7.23) is the way to go, though they seem to have lost their way in v7.5 and up. Hope they find it again or I'm sticking with 7.23 forever.
126 posted on
02/16/2005 2:26:32 PM PST by
Still Thinking
(Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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