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IE 7: so much for Firefox
CNET.com ^ | February 15, 2005 | Molly Wood

Posted on 02/16/2005 10:38:24 AM PST by decimon

The party's over.

In the past year, the little browser that could, Firefox, became the people's hero, an underdog warrior that took a huge swipe at its enemy, Internet Explorer. IE dipped below 90 percent market share for the first time in years, while Firefox lured users like the Pied Piper, blowing past its own fundraising goals and reigniting the browser wars.

Meanwhile, the bad news continued to mount for Microsoft. An IE exploit put even Windows XP SP2 users at risk from phishing schemes, even as Microsoft touted SP2 as the most secure version of Windows yet. Worse, major security companies and the U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team began to recommend that computer users dump IE for something more secure (read: Firefox).

By early this year, Netscape was emboldened to reenter the fray, announcing in January that it would release a new version of the Netscape browser, designed specifically to resist phishing schemes--something even Firefox lacks. Then, Opera said it would offer free licenses to universities, in order to make sure it would still be relevant in the new world browser order. And through it all, what was the response from Microsoft? Silence.

TalkBack Are you afraid of a standalone Internet Explorer, or will you keep betting on the Firefox pony?

For a moment there, it looked like the tyrant IE could actually be overthrown. Those were heady days, weren't they? Well, they're over now. Papa Bill just dropped the hammer. Bill Gates announced this week, at the RSA Security Conference in San Francisco (of all places), that Microsoft will ship Internet Explorer 7, without waiting for the next version of Windows. Gates says the standalone browser is designed to address the perception that IE itself is a massive security risk. What he didn't say, but you know he was thinking it, is that IE 7 will easily put a stop to this upstart browser rebellion.

Don't believe me? You should. Firefox is great, I use it. But it's a chore sometimes, what with most sites using that pesky nonstandard IE code. Not everything renders properly, and some sites just plain don't work--I have to load up IE to use them. Plus, let's be honest--Firefox has its flaws. Why is there no way to check for updates from within the browser, for one thing? Why does it take so doggone long to launch? Why, why must it crash every single time I open a PDF? I mean, every single time. Opera, fine, whatever, I'm not paying for a browser, and for some reason, although I've tried it several times, it's just never captured me. It's too clunky, and I was raised on IE. I don't want to learn something completely new. IE, on the other hand, is like the sweeping tide--it's just easier not to fight it.

If a standalone IE 7 is even 50 percent more secure than current versions, the Firefox rebellion is finished. If IE 7 has tabs, Firefox will be destroyed as surely as the Hungarian uprising of 1956 was crushed by Russia. I use the analogy deliberately, too--no one expected Microsoft to issue a standalone version of IE, but those months of silence (and, no doubt, frantic development) look awfully ominous now. This is a company that's absorbed Justice Department lawsuits, threats of daily fines from the European Union, and lawsuits from nearly every state in the union, and that has steadfastly refused to break up its republic of Windows-IE-Windows Media. But this Firefox thing must have it fearing the domino effect, big time.

It was bad when Microsoft seemed to ignore Firefox, treating it like a harmless upstart not worthy of comment or attack. But now that the sleeping giant has awakened, I think the buzzing gnat of the browser wars is about to be squashed flat. What do you think?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: asshatauthor; browser; computersecurity; convictedmonopoly; drang; firefox; internetexploiter; kneepadder; microsoft; redmondshill; sturm
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Maybe Molly Wood but would you?
1 posted on 02/16/2005 10:38:24 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
that pesky nonstandard IE code

More like IE is a pesky nonstandard browser.

2 posted on 02/16/2005 10:40:55 AM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: ShadowAce

Meta-Ping.


3 posted on 02/16/2005 10:41:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: decimon

I for one have not jumped on the Firefox band wagon and I can not wait for IE 7.


4 posted on 02/16/2005 10:41:56 AM PST by since1868
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

Browser update ping!


5 posted on 02/16/2005 10:42:30 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: decimon

Man alive, she's sure not a company shill. No way. Really.

I bet she doesn't even own stock.

/sarcasm OFF

Never goin' back to IE. I hate it.


6 posted on 02/16/2005 10:43:07 AM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: decimon

I prefer Firefox, and I've not experienced any of the problems mentioned. It starts up fine, and it stops almost all spyware, and I just find it a pleasure to use.


7 posted on 02/16/2005 10:43:09 AM PST by Maigret
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To: decimon
R.I.P. Microsoft.
8 posted on 02/16/2005 10:43:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: decimon
IE dipped below 90 percent

Give me a break.. Netscape owned the market for a while, then IE came out embedded in the OS - thats why they took over. If they are still just under 90% they should be jumping for joy.

If IE7 is good, i will use it. But right now i use firefox for the speed. IE just slows down the internet for me.
9 posted on 02/16/2005 10:43:48 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: decimon

When is its release? I prefer IE over Firefox but security and options on IE sux.


11 posted on 02/16/2005 10:44:51 AM PST by Porterville (Down with politicians.... Down with Judicial Fiat)
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To: decimon
I do like Firefox :) I use it here at Work on my Sun box, at home on my Mac (Mac OSX and Linux). An additional item, it blocks pop-up ads and for banner ads, right click your mouse over the ad and tell it to block images especially from sites like doubleclick.net.
12 posted on 02/16/2005 10:45:51 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: dandelion

No matter what they do to IE I will never use it again. MS was wayyyy to slow in addressing the issues. For that alone they can stuff IE.


13 posted on 02/16/2005 10:46:50 AM PST by LilyBean
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To: Porterville

IE7 beta is due sometime this summer.

Meaning, a final release won't happen until fall at the earliest. We'll have Firefox 1.1, and possibly 1.2 then.


14 posted on 02/16/2005 10:47:11 AM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LOL ok..

As long as they control the OS market, they are going up up up. You think some company is going to come by and just create some awsome OS thats going to take windows? They tried, and they are trying. They give them away for free (windows based linux systems) and they do nothing. So lets think about this.. windows based FREE OS vs $100-$200.00 OS.. and the free types just bomb.

MS will own this market for a very very long time. As they buy up more companies (virus, spyare, etc) and spread into new forms of the market (i.e Microsoft Home) it will only grow.


15 posted on 02/16/2005 10:47:12 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: decimon

I tried Firefox for awhile but there were websites it couldn't support. Now I'm with Netscape but don't like it either. I'm waiting for IE 7 too.


16 posted on 02/16/2005 10:47:25 AM PST by queenkathy
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To: decimon
You'd have to pay me (and purchase a new computer as well) to get me to use IE ever again. Since i moved to FireFox i have not experienced ONE spyware or such. I even thought my anti-spyware programs were not working or something. With IE there was always a case of spyware-flu, even though i am one of the more paranoid internet users out there! I just couldn't avoid the stuff with IE.

So, if IE7 is what they claim it is then good for them. But one thing i know for sure is i will not even download the sucker let alone use it.

17 posted on 02/16/2005 10:47:27 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: decimon
Firefox is ...a chore sometimes, what with most sites using that pesky nonstandard IE code. Not everything renders properly, and some sites just plain don't work--I have to load up IE to use them. ....I don't want to learn something completely new.

There y'go.

Avant Browser does it for me.

Dan

18 posted on 02/16/2005 10:47:31 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: decimon
Tried the Fox, came back to IE.

I think she has a point,but there will always be some who think outside of MS and carry it like a Roman Shield of defiance.

That won't be going away, ever......

19 posted on 02/16/2005 10:48:01 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: decimon

Opera user here. I never had a single problem that this author talked about when switching over.

Here's a question, though. If M$ is releasing a "stand alone" browser, does that mean it's not embedded in the OS? What will happen to M$ defense strategy?


20 posted on 02/16/2005 10:49:03 AM PST by Frank L
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