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A Zealous Prosecutor of Drug Criminals Becomes One Himself
New York Times ^ | February 14, 2005 | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 02/16/2005 10:37:03 AM PST by Scenic Sounds

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To: ClintonBeGone
Funny how most of the judges that the contitution provides to be the arbitors of such claims have laughed statements like these out of their courtrooms.

What part of the Constitution makes judges the arbitors of "such" claims?
Are you speaking of those activist judges or the ones who said the Constitution supports slavery?

You should read Judge Andrew P Napolitano's book:
Constitutional Chaos:What Happens When The Government Breaks Its Own Laws

According to Judge Napolitano, "The government is not your friend".
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81 posted on 02/16/2005 12:27:20 PM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Justices are often unwilling to make unpopular decisions, even if those decisions are in support of the Constitution. Remember, justices have also ruled slavery legal and that the Second Amendment does not apply to the individual's right to keep and bear weapons. Justices that make unconstitutional decisions should be immediately impeached. Keeping people off drugs is not worth our Bill of Rights.


82 posted on 02/16/2005 12:28:42 PM PST by mysterio
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To: ClintonBeGone
Funny how most of the judges that the contitution provides to be the arbitors of such claims have laughed statements like these out of their courtrooms.

"I write separately only to express my view that the very notion of a ‘substantial effects’ test under the Commerce Clause is inconsistent with the original understanding of Congress’ powers and with this Court’s early Commerce Clause cases. By continuing to apply this rootless and malleable standard, however circumscribed, the Court has encouraged the Federal Government to persist in its view that the Commerce Clause has virtually no limits. Until this Court replaces its existing Commerce Clause jurisprudence with a standard more consistent with the original understanding, we will continue to see Congress appropriating state police powers under the guise of regulating commerce."

-Justice Clarence Thomas

83 posted on 02/16/2005 12:29:53 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Hank Rearden

Works for me!


84 posted on 02/16/2005 12:30:30 PM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: ClintonBeGone
What we need is a country free of ... legalization advocates. That is freedom.

I see you studied at the Stalin-Orwell School, because "freedom" to you means killing, exiling, censoring or re-educating people who voice opinions different from your own.

Incidentally, I'm sure Sarah Brady imagines a country free of gun nuts. You and she probably have a lot in common.

85 posted on 02/16/2005 12:30:38 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: tacticalogic

Justice Clarence Thomas has obviously been kidnapped by loserdopian book-readers!


86 posted on 02/16/2005 12:44:30 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: jmc813
Does Rush say to listen to CBG, he's right on those threads?

I'm still waiting for him to post.

87 posted on 02/16/2005 12:53:52 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: jmc813
I'm still waiting for your answer to that one.

Why don't we talk about you, eh? Rather than hide behind others, why can't you defend your strange obession with seeing drugs legalized, kids with free access to dope and drug pushers on every street corner.

88 posted on 02/16/2005 12:55:54 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Know your rights
A conservative wouldn't dream of pointing to them as authorities on the meaning of the Constitution. Why do you?

You don't seriously consider the pro-drug faction here conseravative?

89 posted on 02/16/2005 12:57:35 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Bones75
No viagra?

Don't worry . . . bones. You can still have your Viagra.

90 posted on 02/16/2005 12:59:34 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Why don't we talk about you, eh?

Yes, let's beg the question and change the subject. That'll fix it.

91 posted on 02/16/2005 1:11:48 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: ClintonBeGone
You don't seriously consider the pro-drug faction here conseravative?

Just who would the "pro-drug faction" be?

92 posted on 02/16/2005 1:13:03 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: ClintonBeGone
You don't seriously consider the pro-drug faction here conservative?

Not enough information to tell - however, we do know conclusively that the pro-WOD posters are not conservative, but utopian progressives, bent on 'improving' the race.

And we know where that goes - genocide, always genocide.

You choose your ideological bed-fellows remarkably unwisely!

93 posted on 02/16/2005 1:14:01 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Rather than hide behind others, why can't you defend your strange obession with seeing drugs legalized,

I simply want to end the Federal Drug War and have each individual state decide on the legality of drugs. If this were to happen, I would personally prefer that pot be legalized in my state but nothing harder.

kids with free access to dope

Unlike you Arnold moderates, I find socialized medicine to be repulsive.and drug pushers on every street corner.

As I said, I would not like for anyhing harder than pot to be legal. The number of dealers of hard drugs would not be affected.

With that said, do you still consider me to be a pro-druggie? Also, being that I took the time to answer your queries, would you mind answering mine about JimRob? Is he a pro-druggie?

94 posted on 02/16/2005 1:38:08 PM PST by jmc813 (Fiesta in the making at the Moontower)
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To: ClintonBeGone; Know your rights
You don't seriously consider the pro-drug faction here conseravative?

Many FReepers don't consider the pro-Arnold faction to be all that conservative.

95 posted on 02/16/2005 1:41:25 PM PST by jmc813 (Fiesta in the making at the Moontower)
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To: ClintonBeGone; jmc813
Why don't we talk about you, eh? Rather than hide behind others, why can't you defend your strange obession with seeing drugs legalized, kids with free access to dope and drug pushers on every street corner.

I've never seen so many logical fallacies packed into 1 paragraph: 2 ad homenim attacks and 2 strawman arguments:

Ad homenim 1: 'Why don't we talk about you, eh? Rather than hide behind others,'
No, why can't you debate the issue, instead of implying that the opposition is cowardly?

Ad homenim 2: 'your strange obession with seeing drugs legalized'
Not an 'obsession' at all, but a policy stance. Care to advance an argument to support your policy? Oh wait, it's keeping the WOD status-quo. Kinda like the DemocRATs about Social Security.

Strawman 1: 'kids with free access to dope'
Oh come on, this is so stupid it's laughable. Hello, genius - it's black marketeers that give kids access to dope. For someone who wants Clinton to Be Gone, you sure sound a hell of lot like him: "for the chillrun", doncha know.

Strawman 2: 'drug pushers on every street corner'
Do alcohol and tobacco vendors sell their wares on street corners? Uhhh, no. Nor do they shoot each other over 'turf' either: they apply for a license and legally acquire their inventory and place of business. Legalizing will get the pushers off the street corners and greatly reduce the violence that plagues the inner cities.

It never ceases to amaze just how much you Drug Warriors sound exactly like the 'liberals' (socialists) that you love to criticize. Like a 'liberal', your side is all about FEEEELings and you judge yourselves not on results but good inTENNNNtions. If you cared a hoot about really solving the real problems that we have with drug abuse in America, you'd at least acknowledge that your side has FAILED and FAILED MISERABLY and you'd at least consider an alternative.

But reformers are 'mentally ill', right? Let's round them up and re-educate them. Oh, what the hell - just shoot 'em.

96 posted on 02/16/2005 1:44:00 PM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: jmc813

CBG B G.


97 posted on 02/16/2005 1:53:17 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: ClintonBeGone
Nope, just the ones we've made illegal

what criterea do we use to determine which ones should be illegal?

98 posted on 02/16/2005 1:59:07 PM PST by bird4four4
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To: bassmaner

Excellent post.


99 posted on 02/16/2005 2:00:23 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

I detest corrupt officials. The penalties for govt officials who break law should be double that it is for everyone else.


100 posted on 02/16/2005 2:10:48 PM PST by WindOracle ("The cup had WHAT in it?!?!" - Socrates)
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