Posted on 02/16/2005 7:35:13 AM PST by MisterRepublican
In this country, at least, that type of life would have been the norm until at least the 1920's.
The idea of the nuclear family (mom, dad and 2.1 children) living in their own house or apartment is the norm didn't really come about until after WWII.
Excellent point.
We are teaching our daughter the same thing and she hasn't complaint yet.
Have you noticed that they don't make clothes like they used to?
I even have problems finding shirts that go lower than the midriff ,that are still fashionable and not to"old lady"like.I always buy my shirts and my daughters shirts one or two sizes bigger to cover the mid section.
"The idea of the nuclear family (mom, dad and 2.1 children) living in their own house or apartment is the norm didn't really come about until after WWII."
You're correct. The norm was more the extended family prior to that war. Grandma and grandpa lived upstairs, or downstairs, and maybe the aging maiden aunt, as well.
It seems people have an uninformed view of America in the past.
You are completely out to lunch. Books thought to be "dirty" were banned in the 1920's. Today kids can get far racier stuff at any public library.
To claim that "modesty and censorship evolved during the depression years" is absolutely insane.
No!It's every where.
Do a search for "modest clothing" on any search engine. You can also check out the LL Bean and other catalogs. There's plenty of modest clothing out there. The difficulty may be getting your daughter to choose it.
....Modesty used to be considered a natural female attribute.....
Female atributes are passe. no fainting spells, no collars to the chin, no babies. The female boduy is her very own to be used or viewed as the owner desires.
The Victorian era has been declared over and gone. It's the liberal way.
It was no big deal as we had a large room as a shower anyway - it just felt really strange to swim laps naked having led a sheltered life up until then and never having the opportunity for skinny-dipping. Those mountain streams were just too cold, even in the summer time! *g
I know I should consider it the same too, but ech, when I hear feminine voices spewing gutter language, blecchhh... It's an involuntary reaction I can't really explain...
No, that's the type of girl the average guy wants to party with. That doesn't mean she's what we want for a girlfriend or wife (well, maybe as a girlfriend for a few months).
The Church used to make money off of brothels run on Church land in the middle ages.
What you say is possibly true, but I think the baggy clothing is supposed to be so you can hide your gun, and your knife, and your drugs... Course the most common term of endearment these days seems to be "bitch", so you may be on to something.
The way we live in America today is different from how 99% of humanity has lived throughout history. Extended families living in one building was the norm, for rich and poor alike. Your family was your support structure. Kids would be raised by the family as a whole.
In such an environment, I imagine kids would have been exposed to sex at a pretty young age.
And the vast majority of women regarded everything that went on there with complete disgust. There was prostitution associated with Canaanite idolatry in the Bible, but that doesn't mean that everyone was a prostitute.
And what's ultimately worse, a girl lifting her shirt in public or one lifting her skirt in private?
The comparison is between the vast majority of the girls lifting their shirts in public (and usually doing worse in private) and a few bad apples doing worse in private. IOW, you're telling me I shouldn't care that the culture is trying very hard to turn my daughters into whores because a few girls have always been whores?
I think it's hilarious to hear you guys try to claim that morality isn't going in the sewer in this country -- I've watched the decline in my own lifetime. It's perceptible and dangerous for the future, assuming you want this country to have things like happy kids coming from intact families in the future.
"In such an environment, I imagine kids would have been exposed to sex at a pretty young age."
No doubt, and marriage came pretty early for most people in those days, too. At least for the girls.
A story in the paper here was about a couple celebrating their 80th anniversary. They were 18 and 16 when they married.
The jokes about shotgun weddings go way, way back, too. Kids were having sex back in those "good ol' days," probably at about the same rate as today.
You mean by hearing or seeing their parents? Big whoop, they certainly weren't taught to act like sluts at 13.
Thanks for the tip.
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