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150 detainees freed; more expected soon (some are 1980 Mariel Boat Lift Prisoners)
Herald.com ^ | 2-15-05 | Chardy

Posted on 02/15/2005 8:38:26 PM PST by wardaddy

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Some are dangerous. Others not so dangerous, Some have been held in limbo indefinitely for over two decades.

Folks should not be held indefinitely after serving their time or without trial to begin with. Not here anyhow.....unless they are terrorists.

Amazing. I remember when they took over USP Atlanta 15 years ago.

I had wondered what happened to them.

1 posted on 02/15/2005 8:38:28 PM PST by wardaddy
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Well then I'd guess a few of those Supreme Court Judges wouldn't mind a few of them showing up at their home so they can help acclimate these fellows.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 8:53:56 PM PST by perfect stranger (Godel, Escher and Bach. The Eternal Golden Braid)
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It's a bizarre situation. We can't send them back to Cuba because Cuba won't accept them...yet that's how our system is designed to handle criminal illegals (after they serve their time).

Now they just get to walk our streets (albeit with canes and wheelchairs after 25 years in lockup)?!

3 posted on 02/15/2005 8:54:35 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Folks should not be held indefinitely after serving their time or without trial to begin with. Not here anyhow.....unless they are terrorists.

The US wanted to deport these mad dogs after they served their sentences but Cuba refused to take them back

4 posted on 02/15/2005 8:56:53 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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I would venture they are institutionalized.

They had already served their sentences many years ago, the held in limbo.

I know relatives of some....a 2 decades plus catch-22.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 8:59:44 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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In all the cases covered by the ruling, the detainees have served their sentences but remained in immigration custody pending deportation because their countries would not take them back.

Not all were serious offenders....the article also says those deemed still dangerous may be detained.

You do get the irony of me posting this I'm sure...lol....I only did this because I have known some of them from my MyAmUh days.

Should I ping Luis?

6 posted on 02/15/2005 9:05:48 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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I have become pro-immigration...a new leaf....but only if they are felons..rotfl (sarcasmo terminado)


7 posted on 02/15/2005 9:07:22 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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Should I ping Luis?
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Maybe he has an opinion and some facts


8 posted on 02/15/2005 9:11:09 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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OK....here goes.


9 posted on 02/15/2005 9:12:34 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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Don't forget to thank jimmah cartah for this mess - He's the one that allowed hundreds of thousands of Cubans to come - and Castro said fine - and emptied his mental hospitals and prisons, laughing all the way
10 posted on 02/15/2005 9:18:41 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
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Strange bedfellows...

These guys should by all rights be deported...but to where?

And you can't just keep them in jail indefinitely.

If they were naturalized, whatever crime short of capital crimes they had been found guilty would have carried a sentence, and once served they would be released.

I just can't get my mind around this one.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 9:18:56 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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It isn't just Cubans. We have thousands we want to deport, but their nations won't take them back.

When the INS tried to deport him, he sought asylum, saying that he ...
... to review the cases of 3,500 other prisoners from Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos ...
When the INS tried to deport him, he sought asylum, saying that he ...
www.migrationint.com.au/news/poland/jun_1999-04mn.asp - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

12 posted on 02/15/2005 9:23:34 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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Can't we give them one of the lesser populated Bahamian islands?


13 posted on 02/15/2005 9:24:19 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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There is one elderly Marielito here in Seattle, a black gent named Jose. He stands on Pine Street in front of Nordstrom with a sign screaming about how Mayor Nickles is a Communist and that his landlord keeps screwing him.

I like that guy.

25 years is a long time. Why not deport them to Peru (remember the mess started at the Peruvian embassy)?

Most of the Marielitos were an embarassment to the Cuban Community. Let's not forget, however, that in addition to the criminals, they included homosexuals (Reinaldo Arenas anyone?) and those who didn't do enough time in the Young Pioneers, etc.

The funny thing was that the Marielitos were dumped on a South Miami Beach that had henceforth been dominated by elderly Jewish socialists (many from mother Russia herself). It must have been funny seeing a bunch of leftists turn into Buchananites overnight.

I only know one person associated with the Mariel boatlift. His mom was pregnant with him when she came as part of the boatlift. This guy just finished Med School at Colombia.

14 posted on 02/15/2005 9:25:05 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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One of the weirdest election results came out of Dade County, where the Cubans voted for Reagan because of his staunch anti-Communism, and the Jews and blacks stayed home or voted for Reagan because of the boatlift. It was the first time Dade County went Republican since reconstruction.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:33 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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You can't just SEND them to Peru, Peru may want to chime in on the idea.

And you can't sneak a boat INTO Cuba.

Who the hell knows.


16 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:49 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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Hide the women and children. While doing pertinence via jail duty, I ran across two of these creeps. Even though they were sex offenders, we housed them in general pop as no one, but no one would screw with them.
I predict 95% of them will be back in jail within a year or dead. God help their victims.
17 posted on 02/15/2005 9:27:33 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: wardaddy

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18 posted on 02/15/2005 9:29:20 PM PST by Petronski (Oh for Heaven's sake....)
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Let those Judges have them in their neighborhoods we have had enough down here!!
19 posted on 02/15/2005 9:29:48 PM PST by Fast1
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1980? That means Carter (1977-1981) incarcerated these people.

The Dems are all upset about holding Al-Qaeda & pals for 4 years, but Marielitos for 24 years? (yawn) So what? says Teddy.

20 posted on 02/15/2005 9:38:17 PM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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