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Bloggers: The New Bogeyman
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 2/15/05 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/15/2005 5:49:59 PM PST by Jack Bull

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El Rushbo nails it again.
1 posted on 02/15/2005 5:50:00 PM PST by Jack Bull
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Well, I usually like Rush, but I think this is a very odd column. His listeners are asking him why he didn't join in on the Eason Jordan campaign, and he basically never answers the question. Except, apparently, he thinks it's a pity that Eason was fired. It would have been better to leave him in place.

I don't think so.

Then he gets into the bloggers as bogie men business. His only objection, apparently, is that the MSM is emphasizing the bloggers because they want to distract attention from the really important conservatives--on talk radio.

Quote: "I think certain elements of the mainstream press love the bloggers in the sense that they can take attention away from the power of talk radio by crediting the bloggers for having all this influence." Unquote.

I really don't understand this, unless he's saying that his nose is out of joint, because bloggers pulled off a coup and he didn't. No, Rush. We're all in this together. We need you to help spread the word. And when you have something good to say, we'll help you spread your word. That's how it works--everybody pulling together. It won't weaken Rush, it will strengthen him, because as I've been saying this past week, things go a lot faster when Rush and Drudge and all the boys jump on board and spread the word.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 5:59:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jack Bull

I don't know why Jordan resigned, but when you make a statement in an international forum that your country's soldiers are killing journalists intentionally, there ought to be an apology or retraction.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 6:00:25 PM PST by popdonnelly
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RE: I really don't understand this, unless he's saying that his nose is out of joint, because bloggers pulled off a coup and he didn't.

I did not read the entire column.

During his visit to the Bay Area of San Francisco KSFO's Melanie Morgan was part of the program. I believe she said she met Rush's new squeeze, a CNN reporterette.

Could this answer some questions?

4 posted on 02/15/2005 6:12:40 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Daryn Kagan is Rush's new galpal.

Much as talk radio was the driving force for many a year, it is now the internet (bloggers) and Rush must know that talk radio is going to be left behind much as print and electronic media was left behind.

5 posted on 02/15/2005 6:17:36 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: Jack Bull

Not Rush's best moment. On the edge of conherence in this rant.


6 posted on 02/15/2005 6:21:34 PM PST by BCrago66
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Great column by Rush. He's right, the bloggers are the latest threat to the liberal MSM and must (in their minds) be discredited.

Jayson Blair, Rathergate, Tailwind, Eason, Janet Cooke, Hale Rainey, Glass at NR, it goes on and on.

Let's not forget the MSM is practically a one-stop employment agency for out of work Democrat politician and political aides.
7 posted on 02/15/2005 6:29:21 PM PST by rcocean
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Great column by Rush. He's right, the bloggers are the latest threat to the liberal MSM and must (in their minds) be discredited.

Jayson Blair, Rathergate, Tailwind, Eason, Janet Cooke, Hale Rainey, Glass at NR, it goes on and on.

Let's not forget the MSM is practically a one-stop employment agency for out of work Democrat politician and political aides.
8 posted on 02/15/2005 6:29:26 PM PST by rcocean
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Great column by Rush. He's right, the bloggers are the latest threat to the liberal MSM and must (in their minds) be discredited.

Jayson Blair, Rathergate, Tailwind, Eason, Janet Cooke, Hale Rainey, Glass at NR, it goes on and on.

Let's not forget the MSM is practically a one-stop employment agency for out of work Democrat politician and political aides.
9 posted on 02/15/2005 6:29:26 PM PST by rcocean
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I think we're going to run into trouble if every time somebody on the left says something we make it our business to get 'em thrown out of work.

We're not getting them thrown out.

rather was going to retire on the same date before "memogate",Eason Jordan quit.

We don't jump on every stupid leftists' comment.Like the patriots of the American Revolution ,we are shooting at the officers,and like the British were in shock,the old media is in shock.

We have shown a light on the old media,and they scurry for cover like the cockroaches they are.

10 posted on 02/15/2005 6:33:22 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free)
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To: OldFriend

I certainly hope we are not so foolish as to go down that road. As a collective we are strengthened. We start knocking down our allies we'll only succeed in rebuilding the MSM. Talk Radio is extremely influential and should not be diminished.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 6:33:22 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Cicero

This commentary was very awkward, imo. Rare for Rush.

I assume he would prefer Jordan had been left in place as he prefers Churchill be left in place. To continue talking and driving people away with the realization of who these people are. Reasonable position, I advocated that Rather be left in place for same reason. Still Jordan resigned, and I suspect, because that tape included other half profiles applauding in agreement.

I do think he may have a point that the MSM is trying to edge talk radio out to diminish it, and are using blogs as a tool but it's not the only reason. They hate they have been made vulnerable to the masses through this medium.

I did cringe at the comment he delayed speaking of it because it was a "blogger issue".

Not a good monologue on his part today. Too many open ended comments, didn't feel he was getting to the heart of what he wanted to say.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 6:41:50 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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Talk radio gets most of it's information from the net.

Talk radio reaches far more people than the bloggers can because everyone is not on a computer.

I believe Sean made a huge difference with his tours of Ohio, it kept the excitement fresh and the voters energyzed.

It's a joint effort but for many of us, we've outgrown Rush, Sean and the other talkers.....we have FR, and we have many many folks who have expertise in lots of areas. For now WE RULE.....

13 posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:16 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: BCrago66

"Not Rush's best moment. On the edge of conherence in this rant."

Agreed.

"I think we're going to run into trouble if every time somebody on the left says something we make it our business to get 'em thrown out of work. Don't need to do that. Let 'em speak. Let 'em be who they are. We're benefiting more from that than anybody could possibly imagine..."

Nope. Sorry, El Rush-bo. We need to have a few heads on the block from time to time, to remind the pukes out there that we're serious, and we're gunnin' for them.

We've got Boxer. We've got Teddy. We've got Dean. We've got Kerry still hanging on until the last vote is counted...we've got a full plate as it were for daily entertainment. Nothing wrong with cutting a few of the media off at the knees, is there?

Unless you afraid that we'll turn on YOU one day soon? LOL! (Watch your back...)


14 posted on 02/15/2005 6:53:03 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: OldFriend

O-kay.

I don't feel I've "outgrown" Rush, but perhaps that's just me. I listen to him as I read others around here because everyone offers a slightly different take. I don't actually need Rush, FOX OR this board or blogs to learn the news for myself. The importance is in the different insights people bring to the table and the forum for back and forth discussion. Eventually this reaches level of activism and through that we're are successful by having as many nets to reach people through as can be found. This includes the net, but it also includes talk radio, cable and I hope to branch out eventually into entertainment.

I maintain it is a mistake to go down a road where anyone is deemed to have been "outgrown". Go down that road and we'll develop the arrogance and elitism of the MSM. Our goal should be to maintain ground and continue expansion to forums we haven't yet reached LIKE Hollywood.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 7:01:11 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

Excellent perspective.


16 posted on 02/15/2005 7:10:30 PM PST by Sun Soldier
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To: Soul Seeker

I haven't outgrown Rush. Most of his columns are on the mark, and his show continues to provide an irreplaceable service. I just didn't like this particular piece.

FR can dig stuff up, but we don't have the reach and the audience to follow through in most cases, without help from people like Rush. There really isn't any competition between the internet and the talk shows.

I thought that after clinton left office, things might slow down at FR after all the good work that was done exposing the Bent One. Without public enemy number one to work against, there might be less to do. I'm happy to be proved wrong. I think Drudge HAS slowed down since billy jeff left office, but FR is more active than ever, and there are still plenty of targets.

Rush should think the same way. One Eason Jordan down. So what? There's still plenty more to talk about, and there will continue to be plenty more for the foreseeable future, because I don't expect to see Utopia any time soon.


17 posted on 02/15/2005 7:31:49 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Soul Seeker

I agree. Why diminish talk radio? I sense arrogance in some of these remarks. I'm a bit surprised.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 7:45:24 PM PST by Jack Bull
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To: Cicero

Yes, I didn't like the piece either. Perhaps to elaborate I feel he didn't say what he really wished to say, and so was left with what is posted above. I have a feeling I know where he was going and I would have disagreed with him, but wish he'd said it rather than skirting around his thoughts. One minute the awkward comment about it being a blogger issue...next minute stating emphatically we'd survive as Drudge did..as he did.. equating us on rising level of comparative influence.

Not a great piece and it is rare I don't like something from him, even when in disagreement.

As to the other, my greatest fear is falling prey to the same vanities that overtook the MSM. Elitism, arrogance, power hungry. We haven't gone down that path yet but it's wise to be aware of that vulnerability to prevent its occurence.


19 posted on 02/15/2005 7:49:03 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Cicero

BTW, I'm not accusing you of those vanities. You've a legitimate critique of the monologue and I agree in large part with it.


20 posted on 02/15/2005 7:51:51 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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