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'L.A. Times' Invites 'Whacking' by Critics
NPR ^ | 2/13/05 | David Folkenflik

Posted on 02/15/2005 2:23:00 PM PST by Drango

NPR.org, February 13, 2005 · Do you like the Whack-a-Mole game from the old arcades? Would you really want to be the Mole?

Michael Kinsley apparently would. He's the relatively new editorial and opinion page editor for the Los Angeles Times. And over the past several Sundays he's invited a series of critics of the Times to beat the paper up -- in the paper's own editorial pages.

The first guest Kinsley landed for the guest column? Blogger Mickey Kaus, who writes a feature called "Kausfiles" for the online magazine Slate -- a skeptic so severely disposed against the L.A. Times that he's repeatedly called for the newspaper to cease publishing.

(Anyone hyperventilating over the NPR-Slate partnership can find a mess of disclosures listed at the end of this column.)

Kaus wrote that most Angelenos didn't know that L.A. Mayor James Hahn's marriage had collapsed, or how his child-care issues had distracted him from his job. And that was a problem, Kaus wrote on Jan. 16:

"Some blame the sunny climate for our apathetic political structure. Some blame the distraction of the colorful entertainment industry. I blame the stuffy aversion to gossip of the region's dominant newspaper."

The insult seemed to inspire as much as sting: The Times' top editor, John S. Carroll, sent out a memo soon after Kaus' column appeared, encouraging the staff to weigh his concerns seriously.

The next week brought conservative radio talk show host and blogger Hugh Hewitt's denunciation of what he says is the Times' failure to cover the war on terror. After him came left-of-center journalist Marc Cooper's plea for more interpretive reporting, and less of what he suggested was mere stenography.

Kinsley writes in an e-mail that the goal is to "open the paper to constructive criticism, to try to develop some media self-criticism that isn't as pompous as the usual 'ombudsman' column, and of course to produce a feature that people will read. You never know what people will be interested in, but it's a pretty good bet that if they're reading the L.A. Times, they are interested in the L.A. Times."

Initially, all Kinsley wanted to do was hire Kaus outright; they had worked together at Slate. (Kaus has gained some fame in political circles as the Democratic pundit most likely to tear apart other Democrats and liberals for being too liberal.) When Kaus turned him down, Kinsley invented this forum, which he called "Outside the Tent." It's an experiment inspired by the spirit of the Web world, which tends to invite critics as part of a continuing dialogue.

Hewitt thinks it's healthy -– but says there's an imbalance so far. He says by e-mail he's been the only one right of center, as he counts Kaus as center-left, and Cooper as a pure leftist.

Kinsley says he hopes to build "a small group of rotating writers (f)rom a variety of ideological backgrounds, but I hope all with a sense of humor. We want this not to descend into a longer letter to the editor."

Hewitt can take heart. Patrick Frey, a self-described conservative/libertarian prosecutor who runs a blog called Patterico's Pontifications, is the latest addition to the invitation-only mole-whackers. He routinely refers to the Times on his site as the Los Angeles Dog Trainer.

BONUS FULL-DISCLOSURE: Michael Kinsley was formerly editor of Slate, the online magazine that has a partnership with NPR to produce the show Day to Day; Mickey Kaus' blog, Kausfiles, is part of Slate. Kinsley was hired at the Los Angeles Times by Editor John S. Carroll, who was this reporter's boss for nearly six years at the Baltimore Sun. The Sun and the L. A. Times are corporate siblings. Marc Cooper's radio shows are distributed on some public radio stations -– though not by NPR.


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“[The goal is to] open the paper to constructive criticism, to try to develop some media self-criticism that isn't as pompous as the usual 'ombudsman' column, and of course to produce a feature that people will read.”
Michael Kinsley, 'L.A. Times' editorial and opinion page editor

 
Wack this Kinsley...but I bet some FReepers will take you up on your offer.
1 posted on 02/15/2005 2:23:01 PM PST by Drango
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To: Drango

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2 posted on 02/15/2005 2:29:16 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Drango

Too late. The age of newspapers and meatspace is over.

The LAT and the NYT are the Beavis and Butthead of America.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 2:29:59 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Delight the few.)
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To: Drango

Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! ...........


4 posted on 02/15/2005 2:30:40 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Felt so good you had to do it twice, eh? :-)


5 posted on 02/15/2005 2:43:28 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: Drango

Folkenflik. I just like saying, "Folkenflik."


6 posted on 02/15/2005 2:46:12 PM PST by martin_fierro (FOLKENFLIK!)
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To: Drango

Kinsley is a blithering idiot.


7 posted on 02/15/2005 2:48:54 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: martin_fierro

May the Folkenflik be with you!


8 posted on 02/15/2005 2:49:47 PM PST by MarineBrat ("God is dead"- Nietzsche,1886. "Nietzsche is dead"- God,1901)
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To: MarineBrat

Folkenflik you.

< |:)~


9 posted on 02/15/2005 2:56:58 PM PST by martin_fierro (FOLKENFLIK!)
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To: Drango

The liberal "invites dissenters", but he invites a liberal from Slate? Pathetic.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 2:57:00 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Drango

Have they gotten Larry Elder to take a shot yet.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 3:00:07 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Drango
Whack-a-Mole

Already happened with Dan Rather and the CNN big guy (I forgot his name).

This LA Times stuff isn't really for keeps, they sound like they are just playing around. Ask Dan what it means to be really whacked.

12 posted on 02/15/2005 3:00:23 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: GOP_1900AD
Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! Whack! ...........

Sayyyy...... how'd you sneak a tape recorder into my bedroom last Friday night???

13 posted on 02/15/2005 3:02:56 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: martin_fierro

Did you "flokenflik" today?


14 posted on 02/15/2005 4:32:13 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: Drango

Although I am a proud member of the VRWC, I admire Kinsley as a brilliant and funny writer. For example, he defined a gaffe as when a politician inadvertently tells the truth. I salute Kinsley for opening up his ghastly liberal paper to criticism.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 5:09:18 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn
I too support the outside critique. More papers should follow the move. I also liked what he said about: pompous...ombudsman...column
16 posted on 02/15/2005 5:15:19 PM PST by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: Drango
I have suspicions about it, but I also think that we should give the times the benefit of the doubt. However, hiring a liberal from Slate to do this indicates they intend to keep it in the family. Hugh Hewitt is a gutsy move.

However, print's dead. Newspapers are dying, and the direction of the diffusion through electronic media isn't clear.

17 posted on 02/16/2005 7:33:44 AM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!


18 posted on 02/16/2005 8:40:37 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: JennysCool

My Mozilla session got too excited and started to spaz out ... :=)


19 posted on 02/16/2005 8:41:15 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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