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The Great American Job Sellout
google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw

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To: Conspiracy Guy

Manufacturing is all but dead as we move to a dependant driven society. The jobs of the future are lawyer, politician, doctor, social worker, retail, telemarketing, fast food. I work in manufacturing now and it is evident China will be the loan superpower with 10 years. Not only are we handing over our manufacturing we are giving away the technology. Our leaders have sold us down the river. Oh I forgot about starting your own business. I will clean your air conditioner filter and you can power wash my house.


141 posted on 02/15/2005 9:07:46 AM PST by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I have been trying to fill 4 technical jobs for 4 months. No one, with the qualifications, seems to be looking. I know that is anecdotal but I know of many other's having the same problem all over the US.

Whats the positions and salary?


142 posted on 02/15/2005 9:09:40 AM PST by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I didn't read you whole post.

But anytime governments get involved in freemarkets, it's a problem.

143 posted on 02/15/2005 9:09:51 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Age of Reason
He said there were no qualified workers. You suggest that paying more will make them so?
144 posted on 02/15/2005 9:10:59 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: L98Fiero
Were I not so particular about what I am looking for at this point in my career,

It wouldn't be that the reason you are waiting on the other job instead of taking those offered would be because it pays better and has better benefits and working conditions would it?

145 posted on 02/15/2005 9:11:57 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: cp124

A fundamental economics course could benefit you.


146 posted on 02/15/2005 9:12:03 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: dfwgator
I will say this to anyone, and I know it's easier said than done, but you have to network so that basically you can get a job without having to interview.

Exactly. It's advice no one wants to hear, but 95% of the best jobs will never be publicly advertised, because they are created on the spot when a hiring manager meets someone perfect for his or her team. Jobs found in the newspaper or online are the dregs that were unfillable internally or through the hiring manager's networking contacts...and who wants to work at a job like that, anyway?

147 posted on 02/15/2005 9:12:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: KC_Conspirator
I am going to lunch.

You can go to hell for all I care. Grow up.

148 posted on 02/15/2005 9:12:48 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Protagoras; Conspiracy Guy

And if you offer more money, and that doesn't work, well then maybe you'd better find some other business and let someone else have a try.

But instead, you'd rather American citizen employees give it up.


149 posted on 02/15/2005 9:13:14 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Conspiracy Guy

So what is that? All I've heard from you is noise, post some ball park figures and out line what you expect.


150 posted on 02/15/2005 9:14:02 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Protagoras
He said there were no qualified workers.

And the fisherman who couldn't bait a fish, said there were no fish.

151 posted on 02/15/2005 9:14:51 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

Explain


152 posted on 02/15/2005 9:15:32 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: jpsb

This isn't a job fair.


153 posted on 02/15/2005 9:15:55 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Age of Reason
And if you offer more money, and that doesn't work, well then maybe you'd better find some other business and let someone else have a try.

Perhaps. So the answer to the question is????????

But instead, you'd rather American citizen employees give it up.

Give what up?

154 posted on 02/15/2005 9:17:10 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: cp124
Oh I forgot about starting your own business. I will clean your air conditioner filter and you can power wash my house.

Actually that's a pretty good market.Think about it this way.All those new business owners won't have time to do some things themselves,due to the fact they are running a business.My small biz services some business owners lawn and landscapes,for $50 per hour.Not too bad.

They want their landscape manicured and taken care of,but don't have time.Many use their homes for business parties,employee get-togethers,etc.,,I offer them a service they can relax and enjoy.Granted a 21" push mower and broom won't get you $50 per hour,but with commercial equipment,you can knock out those numbers pretty easily.Then you can make more money on upsells,like fertilizer,lime,pesticides,plant installs,etc.,,

155 posted on 02/15/2005 9:17:48 AM PST by quack
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To: cp124
Not only are we handing over our manufacturing we are giving away the technology

You forgot to add, to communists!. Americans have so lost the desire to preserve their own freedom that they would allow their government and unethical business infludences to tie their economy to a communist nation. It is a shameful turn in the history of the United States that this should pass.
156 posted on 02/15/2005 9:17:51 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Protagoras
Explain

I already did.

157 posted on 02/15/2005 9:18:55 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

What post?


158 posted on 02/15/2005 9:20:40 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Protagoras
Perhaps. So the answer to the question is????????

If you can't cut it in the technology business, maybe take up fishing.

Give what up?

Bargaining power.

159 posted on 02/15/2005 9:21:24 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

The question was. If unqualified get paid more, are they then qualified?


160 posted on 02/15/2005 9:22:29 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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