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Study Finds It Unlikely Lobsters Feel Pain (PETA Alert)
AP/MSNBC ^ | 02/15/2005 | AP

Posted on 02/15/2005 5:27:40 AM PST by drt1

Activists say Norwegian report slanted to favor fishing industry PORTLAND, Maine - A new study out of Norway concludes it’s unlikely lobsters feel pain, stirring up a long-simmering debate over whether Maine’s most valuable seafood suffers when it’s being cooked.

Animal activists for years have claimed that lobsters are in agony when being cooked, and that dropping one in a pot of boiling water is tantamount to torture.

The study, funded by the Norwegian government and written by a scientist at the University of Oslo, suggests lobsters and other invertebrates such as crabs, snails and worms probably don’t suffer even if lobsters do tend to thrash in boiling water....

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KEYWORDS: animalrights; boil; lobster; maine; pain; peta
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To: FrPR
The more sensitive and politically correct Swede Report will be in soon, definitely proving that the lobsters do feel pain, that it is America's fault, and that those Norvegian good-time-charlies once again prove their science clouded by those all-night aquavit and lutefisk parties they are alla time throwing since they came into the oil money. So, all right then, FrPR. Here's what you do if you're having a PETA moment:

Remember, if you ever fall off your yacht and the EPIRB fails, the lobsters will have no qualms about eating you eventually, and providing the crabs and eels leave anything. So listen very carefully the next time you dunk those lively five-pounders in the boiling pot. You can actually hear a little scream (couple-three glasses nice dry white will help your hearing considerable), but don't let it bother you none.

Those rascally marine arthopods would do the same to you if it were they chopping the stove wood and could open a bottle. So indeed, "Send'em over, and set her out again!"

And don 't fall off your yacht.

21 posted on 02/15/2005 8:12:48 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: SheLion; Mama_Bear; AdamInMaine; d3maine; Conservative; spartan68; Madame Dufarge; busybody; ...

Norwegians go all out to improve Maine maritime economy ...uff-da ping.


22 posted on 02/15/2005 8:23:27 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: drt1; JCEccles; wbill; FrPR

If a man says something in the forest where there is no woman to hear, is he still wrong?


23 posted on 02/15/2005 8:30:15 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

LOL


24 posted on 02/15/2005 8:47:59 AM PST by drt1
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To: Kenny Bunk
"I'm just waiting for her to finish up with the teeth."

Been to Moody's, lately?

25 posted on 02/15/2005 10:43:22 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

Moody's? Outa the question. I am still recovering from my last meal at Mamma Baldacci's! And you can't get there from here.


26 posted on 02/15/2005 11:18:32 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I'd hit Dysart's. You know, "Eat here, get gas."

BTW, I used to live in the big farmhouse on the hill overlooking the truckstop. It was a neat place to be a kid, plenty of room to run (this was before 'Mt. Trashmore') and the barn and house had several cellars and secret passages. There was a tunnel (we never could find the entrance) between the barn and house......lady that had lived in the neighborhood since the early 1900's said that it was a part of the underground railroad. Cool Stuff.

27 posted on 02/15/2005 11:27:08 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill
this was before 'Mt. Trashmore'

Steady, Billy Boy, you're talking to a Miss Kennebunk* Dump's ex-spousal unit. Say, I remember you! You're the guy that beat me to that washing machine motor I needed for my grinding wheel. As they used to say at Baldacci's Restaurant, "It's all coming back to me now." Dysarts be the last place I'd take on a charge, even if I was a battery.

*From a lot humbler town than Kennebunk. Me marrying Miss Dump was pure social climbing. When she trashed me, I was so depressed, I went to a shrink in Lewiston. She said, "As long as you're down in the dumps, can you pick me up a tire?"

28 posted on 02/15/2005 1:11:32 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Dysart's is the last place I'd want to be, period. There were a number of girls who used to run a 'service' for the long haul truckers there. Dealt only in cash....wink wink, nudge nudge.

Was there in my college days. Girl I recognized from HS was a part of the 'service', didn't recognize me, and tried to pick me up. Things were progressing along nicely until I asked her how her Mom was. You never saw such shock...wish that I had a camera. :-)

29 posted on 02/15/2005 2:53:26 PM PST by wbill
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To: Kenny Bunk

Is the 'Kennebunk Dump' contest sort of like the 'vacant building festival' in Machias? :-)


30 posted on 02/15/2005 2:55:58 PM PST by wbill
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To: drt1
What next, pain killers for fish bait, humane fly traps, etc.?

Probably. And then after that it's pain killers for lobsters that have the secondary effect of poisoning the omnivorous humans that dare to eat them. Peta's problem with meateaters would then be solved!

31 posted on 02/15/2005 3:26:25 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: JCEccles
It is sloppy or uninformed thinking that PETA resorts to in these cases.

In ALL cases. How about the time they tried to sue the NJ dept of Fish and Game because some guy hit a deer with his car? Saying the NJDFG was badly managing deer populations (e.g. allowing hunting) which was causing deer to run across roads.

32 posted on 02/15/2005 3:27:42 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: drt1
Off topic horrible joke: What goes "woof, woof, woof, boom."

Answer: A toy poodle in the microwave.

(Three PETA lurkers just had strokes.)

33 posted on 02/15/2005 3:29:18 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: drt1

Hurray! Now I won't feel guilty when I order my "Happy Family" Chinese take-out which is chock-full of all sorts of sea-faring critters! (Not that I did in the first place...)

I wish I could afford lobster. I'd eat it every day just to p*ss PETA off. I used to live on the beach (literally) in San Diego, CA. I've boiled alive my share of soft-shell crab, so I've done my part! ;)


34 posted on 02/15/2005 3:42:11 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: wbill
Is the 'Kennebunk Dump' contest sort of like the 'vacant building festival' in Machias?

I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you, that you would dare to compare The Miss Kennebunk Dump Pageant with a hokey small-town festival like that Machias thing. IMHO, The 20-foot fall of tide has created strange genetic mishaps down there, and their dump certainly ain't much to look at. They got no pride at all, throwing away the most useless stuff I ever seen.

35 posted on 02/17/2005 6:13:37 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: SheLion; Mama_Bear; AdamInMaine; d3maine; Conservative; spartan68; Madame Dufarge; busybody

Can-you-believe-the-nerve-of this-guy?-Ping.


36 posted on 02/17/2005 6:16:26 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Having attended neither the 'Miss Kennebunk Dump' pagent, nor the 'Vacant building festival', I have no frame of reference for either. I have attended the 'Old Home Days' in Phillips which features among other things....

A Drunken street dance (no gravel pits in the town), a fuzzy navel contest(that'd be bellybutton lint, not the drink), and a parade where the local septic tank cleaner perennially rides atop his truck while carrying a fishing pole (I wont add to that imagery....).

Truly a tasteful bit of Maine lifestyle. It's fun to watch the tourists there. They're not real sure what to make of it.

37 posted on 02/21/2005 6:26:25 AM PST by wbill
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A Drunken street dance, a fuzzy navel contest and a parade where the local septic tank cleaner perennially rides atop his truck while carrying a fishing pole... It was probably just such shocking and licentious behavior that caused the Puritans in the Commonwealth of Massachussetts to encourage Maine to become its own state. And that's a good thing.

But despite all this impressive pageantry, many people from away, instead of coming to Phillips, or KB to see the most beautiful women in the world, including my ex, compete for the title "Miss Kennebunk Dump," STIll prefer to drag their loutish children to Disneyland, in that bug-infested hellhole, Orlando, FL.

Go figure.

38 posted on 02/22/2005 9:47:55 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ain't only lobsters coming in.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
But despite all this impressive pageantry (etc etc)......I guess that there's no accounting for some people's taste.

I think that it 'twould be better if Massachusetts would give Maine far more encouragement to strike out on its own. After all, the folks from away are just buying the State of Maine back, one house lot at a time.

At a much younger age, I and several of my college engineering friends explored the possibilty of dropping the Kittery Bridge into the Piscataqua. Of course, this theory was only discussed at far too late an hour, and after far too many bottles of Gritty's. It's still not too bad an idea in the abstract, though. :-)

'Course, the folks from Boston and points south are pretty well entrenched. Getting rid of the Kittery bridge might just ensure that they all can't get out. That's a point worth contemplating, as well.

39 posted on 02/22/2005 2:00:09 PM PST by wbill
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To: L98Fiero

Yes, and ignorance is bliss, is it not drtl? Infact this seems to be a common theme here.

Imagine yourself as a lobster, being boiled alive is probably the most agonizing pain you will ever feel in your life. Your eyes crust over and your insides burn and itch but you can do nothing. In fact, if you ever felt a quarter of such pain you would never wish it on any of your worst enemies.

Now my mind is open but I find it suspicious that this study is the only one you can find on the net, THE ONLY ONE! If everyone in the world was in agreement that no pain is felt by the crustations I would be happy to eat my words, and perhaps a few live cooked crabs.

Overlooking the fact that they MAY feel such horrible pain is, in my mind, total and utter ignorance.


40 posted on 02/23/2005 8:50:30 PM PST by _n0rmaL
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